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Totally agree with your post except for the UN declaration... They stated Toronto was amongst the most diverse and multicultural cities in the world - they never made the declaration of any city being the most diverse. Art Eggleton erroneously made that statement and misconstrued what was actually said. It just kinda stuck from then on.
people voting NYC because they dont know better. Toronto isn't as big, but it DEFINITELY is more diverse.
I agree. I mean, the UN, which is BASED in New York City, even said for 5 years in a row that Toronto is the most diverse city in the world. No arguing with that!
I have no doubt that NYC is going to win to poll, because it seems most people on this forum think NYC is the apex of all things urban, including diversity. And I'm sure many of the people voting have never even been to Toronto, or have just passed through while visiting the Falls or going up north. The majority of New York's residents are white (which, in itself includes many different ethnicities and nationalities), black, and Hispanic. The balance is made up of a very diverse population, but I don't believe the numbers indicate that New York is more diverse than Toronto.
Of course, how one defines diversity is also important. Is it the % of foreign born residents, the number of nationalities represented, the % of residents who are not of British ancestry, the relative balance of nationalities, integration of ethnic groups throughout the city and prevalence of mixed-race relationships, etc?
Either way, I don't believe either city can claim to be the run-away winner. New York may beat out Toronto under some definitions of "diversity", but I believe Toronto better fits the bill as "most diverse" in the majority of its manifestations. Not only does it have a larger foreign-born population, a more balanced range of ethnicities, a more integrated urban landscape with nothing like the ethnic ghettos one finds in New York, and a number of diaspora communities that are the largest in the world; it's white population is at least as ethnically diverse as New York's and though it has a smaller black and Hispanic population, its smaller population boasts ethnic groups that are the same size or even larger than New York's, despite being a much smaller city. I don't have the numbers on front of me, but I imagine that if you include the immediate suburbs, Toronto's Chinese, South Asian, Italian, Somali, West Indian, Portuguese/Brazilian, Greek, Eastern European (namely Russian, Ukrainian, Polish, Bosnian, Croatian, Bulgarian, Romanian and Hungarian), and Middle Eastern / Muslim populations are roughly equal to or even greater than New York's, despite the massive population difference.
NYC is just much larger so it will win virtually all total number arguments. Percentages it will win some, but Toronto, LA and SF will win some. Foreign born means a little, but who cares really. Does it matter if you are 2nd generation?
I have no doubt that NYC is going to win to poll, because it seems most people on this forum think NYC is the apex of all things urban, including diversity. And I'm sure many of the people voting have never even been to Toronto, or have just passed through while visiting the Falls or going up north. The majority of New York's residents are white (which, in itself includes many different ethnicities and nationalities), black, and Hispanic. The balance is made up of a very diverse population, but I don't believe the numbers indicate that New York is more diverse than Toronto.
Of course, how one defines diversity is also important. Is it the % of foreign born residents, the number of nationalities represented, the % of residents who are not of British ancestry, the relative balance of nationalities, integration of ethnic groups throughout the city and prevalence of mixed-race relationships, etc?
Either way, I don't believe either city can claim to be the run-away winner. New York may beat out Toronto under some definitions of "diversity", but I believe Toronto better fits the bill as "most diverse" in the majority of its manifestations. Not only does it have a larger foreign-born population, a more balanced range of ethnicities, a more integrated urban landscape with nothing like the ethnic ghettos one finds in New York, and a number of diaspora communities that are the largest in the world; it's white population is at least as ethnically diverse as New York's and though it has a smaller black and Hispanic population, its smaller population boasts ethnic groups that are the same size or even larger than New York's, despite being a much smaller city. I don't have the numbers on front of me, but I imagine that if you include the immediate suburbs, Toronto's Chinese, South Asian, Italian, Somali, West Indian, Portuguese/Brazilian, Greek, Eastern European (namely Russian, Ukrainian, Polish, Bosnian, Croatian, Bulgarian, Romanian and Hungarian), and Middle Eastern / Muslim populations are roughly equal to or even greater than New York's, despite the massive population difference.
This is patently false. For some of year groups, Toronto has equal numbers or less than L.A. And Chicago, much less NYC.
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