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View Poll Results: Which metro has the most urbanity outside downtown?
Washington 28 17.50%
Los Angeles 100 62.50%
Toronto 32 20.00%
Voters: 160. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-05-2011, 07:03 PM
 
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LA, hands down. These are all well outside of downtown (I don't have a good pic of beverly hills, but talk about amenities...)

Brentwood:


Hollywood:


Santa Monica:
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Old 03-05-2011, 07:16 PM
 
Location: The City
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LA, hands down. These are all well outside of downtown (I don't have a good pic of beverly hills, but talk about amenities...)

Brentwood:


Hollywood:


Santa Monica:

I see OJ
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Old 06-08-2011, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Rockville, MD
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I'd say it's definitely LA. Toronto and DC metros have a very similar style of urbanity outside of their downtown cores; they're both dominated by new urbanist developments or clusters of new apartment/condo towers surrounding a rail station and/or attached to a shopping mall.
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Old 06-08-2011, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Centre Wellington, ON
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Toronto and DC aren't exactly the same though, Toronto's developments aren't overly new urbanist, outside of Markham. They're mostly high rises around train or subway stations or shopping malls, towers in the park and dense (typically 10,000-20,000 psm) sprawl. And it seems like Washington's high density developments are more midrise and Toronto's are highrise.
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Old 06-08-2011, 06:11 PM
 
Location: L.A./O.C.
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LA, hands down. These are all well outside of downtown (I don't have a good pic of beverly hills, but talk about amenities...)

Brentwood:


Hollywood:


Santa Monica:
you forgot burbank, century city, wilshire blvd., westwood, koreatown/wilshire, el segundo/LAX, and a lot more in orange county
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Old 06-09-2011, 12:31 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Los Angeles by far. Even if you combine the other two its still Los Angeles.
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Old 06-09-2011, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Rockville, MD
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Los Angeles, and it isn't particularly close. LA's downtown is among the worst of any major U.S. city, but the metro area is filled with interesting, dense urban neighborhoods.

I'm not nearly familiar enough with Toronto to make an educated comment about it.

DC has some interesting neighborhoods that are immediately adjacent to it--Arlington, Bethesda, Alexandria, etc. But once you get outside of the inner ring, DC's suburbs become quite pedestrian and cookie-cutter.
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Old 06-09-2011, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Centre Wellington, ON
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Alright, well possibly the most urban area in suburban Toronto is downtown North York. It's located along Yonge Street, which has a subway and is similar to Wilshire Blvd in LA.

About 45,000 to 50,000 people live in it's condos, and there's retail all along Yonge Street, as well as about a dozen fairly large office buildings. It also contains the third densest census tract in the Greater Toronto Area (and Ontario), with a density of 96,470 ppsm and population of 10,427 as of 2006.

Skyline by DrJoe on skyscrapercity

Mississauga skyline kicks ass... yes, Mississauga has a skyline - Page 3 - SkyscraperCity

North York density by DrJoe on skyscrapercity

Mississauga skyline kicks ass... yes, Mississauga has a skyline - Page 3 - SkyscraperCity

Downtown North York aerial by plumbum on skyscrapercity

Toronto Density - Page 44 - SkyscraperCity

Some of the new retail in condo podiums (google street view by me)


Older retail (google streetview by me)


Mel Lastman Square (google streetview by me)
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:38 AM
 
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But North York is not a suburb anymore, it's within city limits.

The most "Urban" suburb is Mississauga.
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:51 AM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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But North York is not a suburb anymore, it's within city limits.

The most "Urban" suburb is Mississauga.
The westside of LA is mostly within city limits too. The point is neither North York nor Brentwood, Hollywood are downtown.

Overall, good idea for a thread. I am undecided but leaning towards LA. All 3 have very vibrant urban areas outside dt but in their own ways. I'll meditate on it and comment later.
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