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View Poll Results: Which do you prefer?
Detroit/Windsor 34 27.87%
Buffalo/Toronto 59 48.36%
El Paso/Ciudad Juarez 10 8.20%
San Diego/Tijuana 45 36.89%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 122. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-16-2011, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Windsor/Detroit, only because Buffalo/Toronto being border cities is a stretch... They are actually quite far from each other, about 100 Miles/160 km apart...

Windsor/Detroit also have better sports teams, casinos, shopping, highways, museums and get better concerts. Metro Airport is better than Toronto Pearson and the weather is better in Windsor/Detroit than in Toronto let alone Buffalo.
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Old 02-16-2011, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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I've always had a good time in Ontario around Toronto so Buffalo-Toronto wins hands down. It also help that it's only a 4-5 hour drive away.
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Old 03-03-2011, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
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Its sort of a stretch to call Toronto a boarder city with Buffalo, as its a pretty far distance. In my opinion there is way more stuff in the Greater Golden Horseshoe and Buffalo than Detroit-Windsor.
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Old 03-03-2011, 03:16 PM
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Location: Queens, NY
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i can't take this thread seriously, to be honest...
but i will give my take on el paso. it was beautiful. the women are gorgeous, the food was great, the weather, although hot, was to my liking, i enjoyed the city, etc. etc.

met a lot of good ppl in el paso.

juarez...was never safe at the time i was there a few years ago and i damn sure wouldn't be going there now if i was in el paso. juarez was very poor and a lot of ppl came across the border.
maybe one day somebody will fix juarez up. a lot of good ppl live there and are from there.
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Old 03-03-2011, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Buffalo and Toronto are not border cities, the greater golden horseshoe does not include any parts outside Ontario.The GGH would exceed 11 million people if it included Buffalo's metro, but that's a HUGE stretch. Buffalo's border counterpart would probably be Niagara/St. Catherines.
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:24 PM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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Toronto

but yes, it is a stretch.
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Old 03-03-2011, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Glendale, CA
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San Diego is a better city than any other one here (except for Toronto).

The better question is which is better, Buffalo or Tijuana?
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Old 03-04-2011, 02:40 PM
 
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Buffalo and Toronto are not border cities, the greater golden horseshoe does not include any parts outside Ontario.The GGH would exceed 11 million people if it included Buffalo's metro, but that's a HUGE stretch. Buffalo's border counterpart would probably be Niagara/St. Catherines.
Even though technically they aren't included because of being in different countries, I still consider them in the same region or "megalopolis", since they are relatively close, share a lot of cross border traffic, and receive some of each others TV/Radio stations. Although most of the population is in Ontario, that 11 million number is pretty amazing. You would think Buffalo could use that to sway more businesses to the area.
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Old 03-05-2011, 06:07 AM
 
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- Which of these seem to offer the most opportunity?
Pretty equal, each one has unique opportunities not available in the others.

- Which one has overall the best collection of places to go and see?
Well if we're including Toronto than that of course wins.

- Which one of these places offer distinct culture and something unique?
San Diego/Tijuana Surf Culture. There's not a whole lot unique about any of the other places in terms of culture - what Toronto is going to get boosted because it has lots of Jews? El Paso for having lots of Mexicans? That can be found anywhere really but there's only a few cities in the world with the Surf Culture that San Diego has.

How are the shopping, dining, theater, and travel experiences in all these places?
Shopping is top in San Diego, Detroit, and Toronto. Theater in Toronto and Detroit. Travel experiences are comparable with slight edges to Toronto and San Diego as Toronto can get to Europe and San Diego is a quick ride to LAX and over to Asia.

- What are some pros and some cons for these areas as a whole and what would you want to take the opportunity to do or avoid there?
San Diego - hit the beach, con is how hard it is to meet people there since its all money.
Toronto - art galleries, con is the weather, its not america so you have almost no chance of getting a work visa, and its a pretty religious city as a whole.
Detroit - Everythings a con, its a dying city and percentage of millionaires doesn't change that. A single millionaire chilling in a small town in Montana ups the percentage of millionaires there, that doesn't make it a good place to live.
El Paso - I'd just hit up local dive bars and meet people. I also see it as a pro and con the whole drug cartel conflict as it creates jobs and just because its more interesting to live in a city with something going on than not. Most reports I've read don't lead me to believe its unsafe unless you're mixed in with the cartel.

- Where if you had to would you live in, which one of these Metropolitan Areas is the best choice for you personally?
San Diego
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Old 03-05-2011, 06:42 AM
 
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One interesting thing about these border cities is that the US has some of the biggest and most impressive border cities in the world--I didn't realize this. The only others I can think of in this league are Kinshasa/Brazzaville (Congos), Singapore/Johor Bahru, and the Hong Kong/Shenzhen area. Perhaps my geography brain just isn't functioning properly this morning; I've gotta be missing something obvious. But for America to have three cities that are on the list is impressive.

Maybe Asuncion/Clorinda in South America? Jerusalem? N'Djamena? Cucuta? Bujumbura/Uvira? Buenos Aires/Montevideo could be in the club, depending on how you define it.

My definition is cities whose downtown areas are directly oriented towards an international border (or really close), and another city, hopefully a substantial one, lies on the other side, with its downtown area also oriented towards the international border. The area should ideally look like a more or less continuous urban city with a border running through it (sometime "no man's land" areas mess this up, esp in Africa).

My definition excludes Buffalo/Toronto, as well as things like Calcutta or Bratislava/Vienna. (On the other hand, Buffalo alone has an argument for being on the list.) These are places that just happened to be near a border and grow towards the border over time.
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