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View Poll Results: Tenn without Nashville vs Georgia without Atlanta (city not MSA)
Georgia without Atlanta(city only) 49 30.06%
Tenn without Nashville(city only) 103 63.19%
Equal Tie 11 6.75%
Voters: 163. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-17-2011, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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So in another thread it came up that Georgia without Atlanta Is just MS,AL or Tennessee.However a few people interjected and stated that now way Georgia was even close.So what does that mean.Should it just be gdp vs gdp,population or health of the economy.Which would be more popular overall?

Big cities are not the only thing that should be considered.This is a state to state comparison without both of its largest and most influential cities,I think its fair not to include MSA of these two cities.Mainly because Atlanta sprawl is over a quarter of the state.Some of those are completely autonomous of Atlanta.

I think it is also appropriate to talk about this same comparison for other states vs Georgia also.

P.S. Lets not make this a tear down of these states.They are all great places.
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:19 PM
 
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Same sh1t
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:22 PM
 
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TN by a long shot. TN is not a one trick pony. Take away Nashville they still have Knoxville, Memphis, Chattanooga, Pigeon Forge, and Gatlinburg.

Atlanta is the GA showstopper.
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:25 PM
 
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TN by a long shot. TN is not a one trick pony. Take away Nashville they still have Knoxville, Memphis, Chattanooga, Pigeon Forge, and Gatlinburg.

Atlanta is the GA showstopper.
What about Savannah?
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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TN by a long shot. TN is not a one trick pony. Take away Nashville they still have Knoxville, Memphis, Chattanooga, Pigeon Forge, and Gatlinburg.

Atlanta is the GA showstopper.
Remember thiS is not MSA vs MSA.This GA vs TN.
The port of Savannah and Brunswick pack a powerfull punch.Also Georgia has huge military bases all over.
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:31 PM
 
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What about Savannah?
Savanna and Macon are nice small cities, but they can't compete with Memphis, or Knoxville.
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:31 PM
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Georgia without ATL City would still have 9.3 Million, Tennessee without Nashville would have 5.7 Million. Even though Tennessee does have more established cities, just taking the actual city of Atlanta away from georgia wouldn't make a dent in GA economy. Metros now, thats a little different lol.
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Franklin, TN
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Georgia without ATL City would still have 9.3 Million, Tennessee without Nashville would have 5.7 Million. Even though Tennessee does have more established cities, just taking the actual city of Atlanta away from georgia wouldn't make a dent in GA economy. Metros now, thats a little different lol.
My question is what would taking out the central city do for a regional economy, though? Both Atlanta and Nashville are very important economic, cultural, and transportation hubs for the respective areas...while some already established cities that became "absorbed" in the MSA might be fine, it would devestate most of the suburbs that are simply there because of the city. You have to remember that the important rail and air hubs, not just the interstates, would be lost without the two cities. Most of the inner suburbs would be devestated. The exburbs and outer burbs would definitely be impacted, but likely to a lesser extent. I, for one, cannot just see making this comparison with the cities absent...because their regions would be nothing without them.


As for the OP, it's kind of how you frame the argument. TN without Nashville city vs. Georgia without Atlanta city would favor Georgia. TN without Nashville metro vs. Georgia without Atlanta metro would favor Tennessee.
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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My question is what would taking out the central city do for a regional economy, though? Both Atlanta and Nashville are very important economic, cultural, and transportation hubs for the respective areas...while some already established cities that became "absorbed" in the MSA might be fine, it would devestate most of the suburbs that are simply there because of the city. You have to remember that the important rail and air hubs, not just the interstates, would be lost without the two cities. Most of the inner suburbs would be devestated. The exburbs and outer burbs would definitely be impacted, but likely to a lesser extent. I, for one, cannot just see making this comparison with the cities absent...because their regions would be nothing without them.


As for the OP, it's kind of how you frame the argument. TN without Nashville city vs. Georgia without Atlanta city would favor Georgia. TN without Nashville metro vs. Georgia without Atlanta metro would favor Tennessee.
I agree.It is how you frame the question.I went back and forth.But I decided to only take the city center out of the equation and just focus on cities and counties.
In the Atlanta MSA/CSA there are cities that can stand on their own.Cities like Marietta,Gainesville,Decatur,Athens,Dalton etc...
Marietta itself has its own Cobb Energy Center,public transportation,headquarters of many companies and employment centers.
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Old 03-18-2011, 12:47 AM
 
Location: Franklin, TN
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I agree.It is how you frame the question.I went back and forth.But I decided to only take the city center out of the equation and just focus on cities and counties.
In the Atlanta MSA/CSA there are cities that can stand on their own.Cities like Marietta,Gainesville,Decatur,Athens,Dalton etc...
Marietta itself has its own Cobb Energy Center,public transportation,headquarters of many companies and employment centers.
Yes, I understand that...Nashville MSA is the same way. Brentwood and Franklin have a number of corporate headquarters...Murfreesboro, Smyrna, and La Vergne have a number of factories and logistical centers...but how many of those places be there without Nashville's air and rail hubs?

Perhaps rather than Metro, comparing each without its urbanized area would be better.
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