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How did this turn into another is DC a part of the south conversation? I swear people just cant get enough of it....The south starts from Fredericksburg, VA on down. DC is mid-atlantic period. There is southern history in the MD/DC region no question, but NO way is it more culturally similar to GA, Texas, Alabama, NC, than it is to NJ, PA, CT etc...
And finally Atlanta, again is not Northeastern by any stretch.
Someone already elaborated on this... You need to quote them.. nothing is going to change my mind or make me feel any different..
I see where no one elaborated on this.
There must be some sort of rational basis to your opinion or a valid reason why you feel my assessment is off. And there may be. Do you care to share? All I've seen you say is, "Well I disagree" with absolutely nothing to support your view. Come now, I know you can do better than that. You could at least say something to the effect that you associate these characteristics with the Northeast because the region is home to the oldest big cities in the country or something. I mean this is called a discussion board for a reason right?
I think what's more disturbing for me is that you see Atlanta as having characteristics you deem as exclusively Northeastern as a sort of validation or vindication of the city.
There must be some sort of rational basis to your opinion or a valid reason why you feel my assessment is off. And there may be. Do you care to share? All I've seen you say is, "Well I disagree" with absolutely nothing to support your view. Come now, I know you can do better than that. You could at least say something to the effect that you associate these characteristics with the Northeast because the region is home to the oldest big cities in the country or something. I mean this is called a discussion board for a reason right?
I think what's more disturbing for me is that you see Atlanta as having characteristics you deem as exclusively Northeastern as a sort of validation or vindication of the city.
Evidently you haven't read thru the last 3 pages. Someone quoted u when u made that same statement too me the first time... Check dtownboogie post on page 12.. I believe.
Evidently you haven't read thru the last 3 pages. Someone quoted u when u made that same statement too me the first time... Check dtownboogie post on page 12.. I believe.
I missed that post and the things he mentioned were not the things that were brought up in the first post in this thread.
I agree with your post because it is true that the architecture is not exclusive to the northeast however the subway stations, street vendors, and overall street level activity that was captured in those photos do give it more of a northeastern vibe which can also be attributed to characteristics of the northeast while the cities I highlighted do not have that type of environment.
You highlighted New Orleans, which has it more than any Southern city, IMO. No it doesn't have a subway but it does have an authentic streetcar system still in place that runs downtown and throughout the surrounding neighborhoods. At any rate, the cities I listed were meant to representative of the fact that cities in different regions of the country have a similar urban vibe to them. That's not exclusive to the Northeast.
Also, when one considers not just downtown but areas outside of downtown, the cities I initially listed have even more of a case.
You highlighted New Orleans, which has it more than any Southern city, IMO. No it doesn't have a subway but it does have an authentic streetcar system still in place that runs downtown and throughout the surrounding neighborhoods. At any rate, the cities I listed were meant to representative of the fact that cities in different regions of the country have a similar urban vibe to them. That's not exclusive to the Northeast.
Also, when one considers not just downtown but areas outside of downtown, the cities I initially listed have even more of a case.
Ok I'll give you NOLA but Detroit, Kansas City, and especially Tulsa? I would like for you to try to come up with any pics on the internet where street level activity that in those cities look as vibrant as the one's for ATL on a regular day. BTW having a street car is not the same as having a subway, a subway in the city gives a city a much more urban feel to it which is a strong characteristic of a northeastern city.
Ok I'll give you NOLA but Detroit, Kansas City, and especially Tulsa? I would like for you to try to come up with any pics on the internet where street level activity that in those cities look as vibrant as the one's for ATL on a regular day. BTW having a street car is not the same as having a subway, a subway in the city gives a city a much more urban feel to it which is a strong characteristic of a northeastern city.
Which you cant find in all Historic urban centers nor will you find the street vendors. Are muslims On the streets with there mic screaming about people going to hell etc I see this all the time in Philly.
Which you cant find in all Historic urban centers nor will you find the street vendors. Are muslims On the streets with there mic screaming about people going to hell etc I see this all the time in Philly.
Ok I'll give you NOLA but Detroit, Kansas City, and especially Tulsa? I would like for you to try to come up with any pics on the internet where street level activity that in those cities look as vibrant as the one's for ATL on a regular day. BTW having a street car is not the same as having a subway, a subway in the city gives a city a much more urban feel to it which is a strong characteristic of a northeastern city.
Once again, you're missing the forest for the trees. My point was that other regions of the country have dense, active urban cores. That in itself is not a NE characteristic.
And I don't think a subway in and of itself automatically gives a city more of an urban feel. That's dependent on if and how it's intricately tied to land uses and historically, MARTA in Atlanta hasn't done a really good job with that. If a streetcar system or even light rail has that relationship with land use, it will automatically have a more urban effect on its surroundings.
Once again, you're missing the forest for the trees. My point was that other regions of the country have dense, active urban cores. That in itself is not a NE characteristic.
And I don't think a subway in and of itself automatically gives a city more of an urban feel. That's dependent on if and how it's intricately tied to land uses and historically, MARTA in Atlanta hasn't done a really good job with that. If a streetcar system or even light rail has that relationship with land use, it will automatically have a more urban effect on its surroundings.
Ok then quick question for you since I see what your continuing argument is going to be, what in your opinion are "northeastern" characteristics?
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