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By the way, El Polo Loco is *not* a local chain... must have different ideas of what a local chain is. They have them in Texas, Nevada, Utah, Bay Area, Arizona...If that is what you guys consider "local" chains I'll have to re-evaluate past posts. I consider a local chain a restaurant that maybe has a few locations in the city, and nowhere else.
might just be, if we don't recognize the store from back home it must not be a chain. Traveling around the west, I assumed a few stores I never heard of were local chains until I found them elsewhere.
BajanYankee I agree, my thresholds are definitely different. There comes a point where it's like whatever, I'll get in the car, walking should be pleasing and centered around the pedestrian...
By the way, El Polo Loco is *not* a local chain... must have different ideas of what a local chain is. They have them in Texas, Nevada, Utah, Bay Area, Arizona...If that is what you guys consider "local" chains I'll have to re-evaluate past posts. I consider a local chain a restaurant that maybe has a few locations in the city, and nowhere else.
LOLOL Okay.... I don't even know what that means.
It is local because the first American location was in Westlake (yeah it's that one at Alvarado and 6th). If branching outside of your original city makes you a non-local chain, then cross In-and-Out, Carl's Jr., etc off the list too.
It is local because the first American location was in Westlake (yeah it's that one at Alvarado and 6th). If branching outside of your original city makes you a non-local chain, then cross In-and-Out, Carl's Jr., etc off the list too.
Oh man... definitely cross all of them out, those aren't local chains any more than Atlanta having the first Moe's makes it a local chain or Chipotle in Denver..or Peet's Coffee from Berkeley, etc.
Oh man... definitely cross all of them out, those aren't local chains any more than Atlanta having the first Moe's makes it a local chain or Chipotle in Denver..or Peet's Coffee from Berkeley, etc.
Peet's is definitely a Bay Area company. Just cause you have one in Chicago a handful in Boston doesn't make it a national chain. Huge difference between that and Chipotle, which probably has a location in every city over 50k at this point.
I don't know what point you are trying to make. Yes El Polo Loco is a national chain but originally a local business. There are real local chains here too, with no locations outside of LA.
Peet's is definitely a Bay Area company. Just cause you have one in Chicago a handful in Boston doesn't make it a national chain. Huge difference between that and Chipotle, which probably has a location in every city over 50k at this point.
I don't know what point you are trying to make. Yes El Polo Loco is a national chain but originally a local business. There are real local chains here too, with no locations outside of LA.
I can get Peet's coffee in almost every decent store I've ever been in including Whole Foods anywhere, Publix in Florida, etc. etc. It's a national chain and obviously as I said, we have a different threshold. If I wanted to check out a "local" shop in the Bay Area it certainly wouldn't be Peet's. It is a Bay Area company for sure, but it isn't a local chain. Once they open locations around the country, plan on expanding more, and distribute their coffee and brand throughout national retail distributors, it is NOT a local chain.
The point I am making is I have seen that a few times now with what people consider local chains, I saw you mention El Pollo Loco that it was a local chain... so I wanted to hear your or anybody elses thoughts on it. If I post about a local chain, I don't mean something like El Pollo Loco. I don't think anybody from NYC or Boston for example means that either.
I've heard of El Pollo Loco, but never seen it around my way. So I'd assume it was localized in LA. Kinda like Cookout in NC, Miami Subs, and Checkers.
I've heard of El Pollo Loco, but never seen it around my way. So I'd assume it was localized in LA. Kinda like Cookout in NC, Miami Subs, and Checkers.
I'm not sure, I always assumed it was all over the country. I just meant it was founded as a local chain.
This is really about the only place I would consider walking for multiple blocks for enjoyment or otherwise. It's three dimensional (for a little while anyway), pedestrian-scaled and has sidewalks populated with more than a few stragglers. This is where I would live if I were primarily concerned about pedestrianism.
I was in dt Los Angeles yesterday. I caught the subway to have lunch at a deli in MacArthur Park/Westlake. From there I walked to Koreatown mainly down Wilshire with my camera of course. Also walked a few side streets. I lived in a few cities over the years and honestly I don't see any difference with this and walking down any main street in any other city. Did I see a gas station? Yes. Is that any different from seeing gas stations on Walnut St in Philadelphia or on Pennsylvania Ave on Capitol Hill? Did I notice fewer people? No.
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