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Old 03-25-2011, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista
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Yeah, ignorance. Even in the most remote mountainous areas of central Pennsylvania, the rate of educational attainment is orders of magnitude higher than anywhere in mountainous eastern Kentucky, and the rate of poverty is orders of magnitude lower. People who use the term "Pennsyltucky" are basically labeling the entire state as Appalachian white trash, which is total bull****, especially considering over 2,000,000 people in the state aren't even white in the first place.
to be fair, james carville who coined the term was only referring to politics and was not making a negative comment as far as the educational attainment of Pennsylvanians or anything like that.

Simply put, he was talking about exactly what the OP is talking about; the fact that pennsylvania is a state where on either side of the state are two massive metropolis' with huge populations and leftist leanings and in between the two is a large region of mountains and farmland where the citizens have a political mindset more akin to your average kentuckian than your average philadelphian and pittburghian.

many people over the years have misunderstood and confused his statement into an insult to all of pennsylvania when in reality the original purpose was meant to be an insult to no one and really just a comment on the odd state of political discourse in this state.
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Old 03-25-2011, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Instead PA politics are trying to sabotage the cities, especially the new GOV Corbett, I just have this feeling he's going to be VERY anti-Pittsburgh and Philadelphia
Corbett is nothing more than a knee-jerk reaction to Rendell, the perception being that he threw money at Philadelphia at the expense of the rest of the state.

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where the citizens have a political mindset more akin to your average kentuckian
Now just what is the political mindset of the average Kentuckian? Do you even know?

Come to think of it, there's a state with some rural/urban contrasts: the Louisville/Lexington metro areas, along with Northern Kentucky in the Cincinnati metro, and then the smaller cities and towns, and rural areas in the rest of the state.
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Old 03-25-2011, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista
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Corbett is nothing more than a knee-jerk reaction to Rendell, the perception being that he threw money at Philadelphia at the expense of the rest of the state.


Now just what is the political mindset of the average Kentuckian? Do you even know?

Come to think of it, there's a state with some rural/urban contrasts: the Louisville/Lexington metro areas, along with Northern Kentucky in the Cincinnati metro, and then the smaller cities and towns, and rural areas in the rest of the state.
right leaning. what are you talking about? i was quoting another person....
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Old 03-25-2011, 11:17 AM
 
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I can tell you first-hand that many people in rural Georgia loathe Atlanta, and complain about how "unfair" it is that Atlanta "gets all the attention."
But do they overwhelm ATL in state politics.....Or does ATL hold its own....I know big cities are mostly hated by the rural folks but usual the cities still have their political pull in state politics....Hell Upstate NY Hates NYC and downstate with a serious passion, but tough sh*t NYC brings in the tax dollars and the state damn well knows it, which is why whatever NYC wants they get.

Pittsburgh and Philly don't have that clout with PA rural PA has the say-so, even though they are the NYC's of PA...they bring in the TAX dollars.
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Old 03-25-2011, 11:20 AM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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to be fair, james carville who coined the term was only referring to politics and was not making a negative comment as far as the educational attainment of Pennsylvanians or anything like that.
Oh I realize that, but few others seem to. Central Pennsylvania is politically conservative, yet its educational attainment still puts rural areas in Kentucky and Alabama to shame.

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many people over the years have misunderstood and confused his statement into an insult to all of pennsylvania when in reality the original purpose was meant to be an insult to no one and really just a comment on the odd state of political discourse in this state.
Worse yet, they've used it as a way to insult Pennsylvania themselves, hence the ignorance.
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Old 03-25-2011, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista
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Oh I realize that, but few others seem to. Central Pennsylvania is politically conservative, yet its educational attainment still puts rural areas in Kentucky and Alabama to shame.



Worse yet, they've used it as a way to insult Pennsylvania themselves, hence the ignorance.
very true, ignorant people everywhere haha
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Old 03-25-2011, 12:43 PM
 
Location: The City
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The most similar states would be NY and MD - the biggest difference is they both have Ocean beaches
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Old 03-25-2011, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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I have seen some very hillbilly / backward areas in NY . Some are very close to NYC
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Old 03-25-2011, 02:15 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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But do they overwhelm ATL in state politics.....Or does ATL hold its own.
No, they do indeed control state politics. Atlanta's influence is a bit minimal in state government--especially since some of the suburbs are anti-Atlanta as well.
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Old 03-25-2011, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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There is a reason the state is known to many as "Pennsyltucky"
Is that really true? I mean, plenty of people in the urban areas of PA tend to use that term pejoratively in speaking about the rural areas of the state, but I've never heard it applied to the state in its entirety -- especially from out-of-staters.

Also, we definitely should not go down the road of discussing which state has the most "hicks" or "backwards" people. That never ends pleasantly, as it's always based on oversimplified media perceptions and ignorance.
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