News, Vanishing City: The Story Behind Detroit's Shocking Population Decline.

[killakoolaide]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny4a-oxOndo

[bryson662001]

Originally Posted by 1greatcity

That the MSA lost population from 2000-2010 is also evidence that the economic woes are not confined to just the city of Detroit; the entire area is clearly affected.

That is interesting that the MSA lost 91,000 people in the last 5 years. No wonder RE in Detroit is such a bargain.

[S.A.V.E.R.I.N]

Originally Posted by 1greatcity

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The city's rapid and continuing population loss point to the fact that Detroit is still in decline. That the MSA lost population from 2000-2010 is also evidence that the economic woes are not confined to just the city of Detroit; the entire area is clearly affected.

I'm not from Detroit nor have I ever lived there before but this is false. On the premise of population loss you claim that its not just the city but more so rather the entire region in general.

You are false, the only two counties that lost population in Detroit's metro was Wayne County & Saint Clair County. Saint Clair County being an irrelevantly small county by population with only 164,000 people and Wayne County being the host of the city of Detroit. Every other county around Detroit grew, some of them exponentially fast.

So yes, the metro's population loss and the states population loss are a direct result of the city of Detroit, the metro and state both barely grew but Detroit's loss offset the entire area. Which goes back to the old saying that to help Michigan recover, they HAVE TO help Detroit, they cant do it without Detroit, nor should they try to do it without Detroit.

My rule of thumb in belief on this matter is that every city that is shrinking or shrank has a bottom out point, and when it reaches that it has no where else to go but up. I feel that 2020-2030 will be a new start for both Detroit & Chicago as well as many of the Midwestern & Northeastern cities experiencing population declines. This decade I wont count on it, the situation hasn't improved and many are stating Chicago's population loss accelerated in worse economic times so that's another one or two years of population loss in the horizon and after that its up to Chicago to either make it or break it and see a revival. Would love to see both cities, along with Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Cleveland, Saint Louis, Philadelphia, Minneapolis, Cincinnati, Milwaukee, and the rest make a come back.

[Chicago60614]

Originally Posted by rnc2mbfl

Gary, Indiana was probably the first city in the rust best to feel the effects of abandonment. Though on a smaller scale, it is probably worse than what's happening in Detroit. My parents are from Gary and it's almost impossible to even begin to imagine how different their lives were growing up in the 40's and 50's to what that city is today.
It's all so sad.

Yeah, I've driven through Gary a few times just to see it for myself. Basically the city grew from nothing to 180,000 people in about 50 years, and then well over half the population drained away in the next 50 years. A huge rise and fall within just 100 years.

1910 15,802 —
1920 55,378 250.4%
1930 100,666 81.8%
1940 111,719 11.0%
1950 133,911 19.9%
1960 178,320 33.2%
1970 175,415 −1.6%
1980 144,953 −17.4%
1990 116,646 −19.5%
2000 102,746 −11.9%
2010 80,294 −21.9%

Basically though white people just crossed the city limits and set up in other communities right outside Gary. The white people were replaced by blacks, although not in as many numbers. Now the blacks are leaving too and the city continues to drain away.

The city has lost 55% of its population, but the county as a whole has only lost 5%.

[detroitlove]

Originally Posted by S.A.V.E.R.I.N

I'm not from Detroit nor have I ever lived there before but this is false. On the premise of population loss you claim that its not just the city but more so rather the entire region in general.

You are false, the only two counties that lost population in Detroit's metro was Wayne County & Saint Clair County. Saint Clair County being an irrelevantly small county by population with only 164,000 people and Wayne County being the host of the city of Detroit. Every other county around Detroit grew, some of them exponentially fast.

So yes, the metro's population loss and the states population loss are a direct result of the city of Detroit, the metro and state both barely grew but Detroit's loss offset the entire area. Which goes back to the old saying that to help Michigan recover, they HAVE TO help Detroit, they cant do it without Detroit, nor should they try to do it without Detroit.

My rule of thumb in belief on this matter is that every city that is shrinking or shrank has a bottom out point, and when it reaches that it has no where else to go but up. I feel that 2020-2030 will be a new start for both Detroit & Chicago as well as many of the Midwestern & Northeastern cities experiencing population declines. This decade I wont count on it, the situation hasn't improved and many are stating Chicago's population loss accelerated in worse economic times so that's another one or two years of population loss in the horizon and after that its up to Chicago to either make it or break it and see a revival. Would love to see both cities, along with Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Cleveland, Saint Louis, Philadelphia, Minneapolis, Cincinnati, Milwaukee, and the rest make a come back.

Actually it isn't false. It does show "growth" in Oakland County and Macomb but its mostly Metro Detroit people moving further and further out as opposed to people from elsewhere moving to the region. As a whole, the Metro area has decreased (MI in general really)

[Trimac20]

What is Detroit doing to reverse this? What's stopping them from being another Toronto in 20 years time? They're pretty much the same region.

[PatDJohns]

Originally Posted by S.A.V.E.R.I.N

I'm not from Detroit nor have I ever lived there before but this is false. On the premise of population loss you claim that its not just the city but more so rather the entire region in general.

You are false, the only two counties that lost population in Detroit's metro was Wayne County & Saint Clair County. Saint Clair County being an irrelevantly small county by population with only 164,000 people and Wayne County being the host of the city of Detroit. Every other county around Detroit grew, some of them exponentially fast.

So yes, the metro's population loss and the states population loss are a direct result of the city of Detroit, the metro and state both barely grew but Detroit's loss offset the entire area. Which goes back to the old saying that to help Michigan recover, they HAVE TO help Detroit, they cant do it without Detroit, nor should they try to do it without Detroit.

My rule of thumb in belief on this matter is that every city that is shrinking or shrank has a bottom out point, and when it reaches that it has no where else to go but up. I feel that 2020-2030 will be a new start for both Detroit & Chicago as well as many of the Midwestern & Northeastern cities experiencing population declines. This decade I wont count on it, the situation hasn't improved and many are stating Chicago's population loss accelerated in worse economic times so that's another one or two years of population loss in the horizon and after that its up to Chicago to either make it or break it and see a revival. Would love to see both cities, along with Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Cleveland, Saint Louis, Philadelphia, Minneapolis, Cincinnati, Milwaukee, and the rest make a come back.

I would love to see this too, but to be honest, I dont want NYC to have a population explosion. NYC has not lost population since 1990 and its already over-crowded. If the Northeast had an economic boom, then that would probably mean NYC would be in the middle of it and thus get the biggest population increases.