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View Poll Results: Albuquerque vs Las Vegas
Albuquerque 76 56.30%
Las Vegas 59 43.70%
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Old 04-06-2011, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV - Albuquerque, NM
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Some people want to preserve existing open space at the outskirts of the city to preserve the visual charm that provides. (Interested posters could see V.B. Price's A City at the End of the World for discussion of this issue.)
Cities are meant to grow. Albuquerque is meant to grow.

Why would we protect the open space around Albuquerque, when New Mexico as a whole is nothing but open space? We have less than 2.2 Million people, I'm sure we will have plenty of open space for decades...maybe centuries to come.
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Old 04-06-2011, 03:27 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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Cities are meant to grow. Albuquerque is meant to grow.

Why would we protect the open space around Albuquerque, when New Mexico as a whole is nothing but open space? We have less than 2.2 Million people, I'm sure we will have plenty of open space for decades...maybe centuries to come.
Because then Albuquerque would look like Phoenix (I shutter to think that). Sure there is room to grow, but smart and selective growth is better than growth for growth's sake. There are many beautiful parts of Albuquerque that will hopefully remaining in tact. Fortunately I think the Indian reservations form good boundaries. Rio Rancho seems to have ample room for growth. Seriously if you got time, read City at the End of the World, it will give you a new perspective on Albuquerque, good, bad, and neutral.
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Old 04-06-2011, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV - Albuquerque, NM
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Because then Albuquerque would look like Phoenix (I shutter to think that). Sure there is room to grow, but smart and selective growth is better than growth for growth's sake. There are many beautiful parts of Albuquerque that will hopefully remaining in tact. Fortunately I think the Indian reservations form good boundaries. Rio Rancho seems to have ample room for growth. Seriously if you got time, read City at the End of the World, it will give you a new perspective on Albuquerque, good, bad, and neutral.
Eh, Albuquerque will be a nice major city someday. Put New Mexico on the map!
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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Because then Albuquerque would look like Phoenix (I shutter to think that). Sure there is room to grow, but smart and selective growth is better than growth for growth's sake. There are many beautiful parts of Albuquerque that will hopefully remaining in tact. Fortunately I think the Indian reservations form good boundaries. Rio Rancho seems to have ample room for growth. Seriously if you got time, read City at the End of the World, it will give you a new perspective on Albuquerque, good, bad, and neutral.
Here is a question for you (sorry Bradly, this one is specific for the OP):

What is your beef with Phoenix? So it grew quite quickly; however, you're acting as though it is a horrible place to be compared to. I can't quite think of anything extraordinary that has all the homers popping out of the woodwork to keep chanting the greatness of ABQ. Frankly, I just don't get it, but I guess I'm not the only one. Sure, ABQ has some great things about it like many other cities do, but if ABQ was so much of a better place to be than these other cities, wouldn't it already be as popular or bigger than Las Vegas or Phoenix? Wouldn't it already attract more visitors? Let's please come down to Earth for awhile.

You posted a question as the OP, then you answered your own post. You point out things about Vegas and ABQ; however, while you attempt to post "facts" about both cities, you follow them up with primarily negative statements about Vegas, while you paint ABQ in a more positive light.
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Lubbock, TX
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I can't quite think of anything extraordinary that has all the homers popping out of the woodwork to keep chanting the greatness of ABQ.
I'm not sure what a "homer" is. But I am more than willing to say Albuquerque is not for everyone and it has plenty of problems and drawbacks. (I realize this was addressed to the OP but I thought I would pop out of the woodwork and comment anyway.)
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Old 04-08-2011, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV - Albuquerque, NM
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Because Phoenix is an ugly city. It's about 70% cheap cookie-cutter homes. It's filled with nothing but sprawl, nothing else interesting about it.

Albuquerque has history to it. Ever been to our downtown? we have more historical homes than Tucson and Phoenix combined.
Turn all your farmland and deserts into suburbs, thats all fine and dandy, when you run out of water don't come crying.
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Old 04-08-2011, 04:32 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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Here is a question for you (sorry Bradly, this one is specific for the OP):

What is your beef with Phoenix? So it grew quite quickly; however, you're acting as though it is a horrible place to be compared to. I can't quite think of anything extraordinary that has all the homers popping out of the woodwork to keep chanting the greatness of ABQ. Frankly, I just don't get it, but I guess I'm not the only one. Sure, ABQ has some great things about it like many other cities do, but if ABQ was so much of a better place to be than these other cities, wouldn't it already be as popular or bigger than Las Vegas or Phoenix? Wouldn't it already attract more visitors? Let's please come down to Earth for awhile.

You posted a question as the OP, then you answered your own post. You point out things about Vegas and ABQ; however, while you attempt to post "facts" about both cities, you follow them up with primarily negative statements about Vegas, while you paint ABQ in a more positive light.
I don't like Phoenix nor do I like Las Vegas, why would that bother you though? I also don't really like NY, LA, and I'm not even a big fan of my hometown Boston. I do like Seattle, Austin, Denver, and Albuquerque. They're just my preferences. I'm sure you have yours too, like my opinion of Albuquerque is clearly higher than yours, big deal. You have your preferences and convictions for residing in Arizona in which I respect and I wouldn't write off the whole state, I just don't care for Phoenix and prefer the size and intimacy of Albuquerque much more.

As far as popularity, size, and I suppose being less of an attraction to some, I say thus the basis of Albuquerque's appeal. Phoenix and Las Vegas grew too fast too quick and many of the neighborhoods and extensive sprawl there do not appeal to me. I like that Albuquerque is a laid back medium sized city and to me it's just the right size. It has most everything one could want from a bigger city but it hasn't overgrown and its natural surroundings still dominate the essence of the city. ABQ will no doubt grow and has grown, but at a much steadier and more comfortable pace. I like how Albuquerque and the state of New Mexico are still uncrowded.

I also feel Albuquerque has preserved its original character and historic roots a lot more than Phoenix and Las Vegas have. It's just a more intimate city and that's what I like about it. I could care less about how much bigger another city is or what high end shopping Scottsdale has but Albuquerque doesn't. Albuquerque feels like a genuine New Mexican city where Phoenix feels like the sprawl of Southern California and Chicagoland had a love child in the desert.

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Old 04-08-2011, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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Because Phoenix is an ugly city. It's about 70% cheap cookie-cutter homes. It's filled with nothing but sprawl, nothing else interesting about it.

Albuquerque has history to it. Ever been to our downtown? we have more historical homes than Tucson and Phoenix combined.
Turn all your farmland and deserts into suburbs, thats all fine and dandy, when you run out of water don't come crying.
I can always rely on you for some good ol' sweeping generalizations.
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV - Albuquerque, NM
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I can always rely on you for some good ol' sweeping generalizations.
Just saying, that's not very smart.

Albuquerque on the other hand, has one of America's longest rivers right in the smack center of town to rely on.
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:47 PM
 
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Vegas is a fun place for casinos and entertainment, but what for go their if their is CASINOS and Entertainment already in and around Albuquerque? Also I could NEVER imagine living in Nevada. The food of New Mexico is great , I like the variety in Vegas though, Albuquerque is a much more comfortable place to live if you ask me, and has a mild four seasons of which I can see why people enjoy as well. Also plenty of out door activities , balloon fiesta, tramway, old town, nob hill, etc.. I can go on, but Abq for sure.
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