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Look guy's it's okay, we were just pointing that out, you dont have to deny it if it's there. We know DC's DT has it's flaws, but when ever someone points out something that they noticed of Philly you guys get all bent out of shape over it and try to pretend it doesn't exit LOL. I can admit that DT DC has a galore of office buildings, less shopping, less dense, and has less DT neighborhood. A bunch of people could be standing right in the middle of CC and record themselves going from surface lot to surface lot and you guy's would probably act like it never happened LOL. Somethings you just gotta admit and take with a grain of salt. Philly just like many other places DC included are not perfect, so get over it already.
it's not so much that you've pointed out a flaw it's the fact that you've overstated it's prevalence and then tried to back up your point with incorrect data and photos that are of the stadium complex.
in my opinion one parking lot in dt philly is too much. i hate em. but they're also no where near as prevalent as you make them out to be and when you show a picture saying look at all those parking lots and it's from so high in the air you can't see ANY parking lots, then it's just a little annoying.
if you were to say philly has more surface parking lots in it's downtown i'd probably agree. but you cut your own argument off at it's knees by trying to act like dt philly is overrun with parking lots and they're all over the place. It's just silly and that's why people are going to lash back against your claims... because they're ridiculous.
seriously though if you think you're right, please circle the parking lots in that huge overhead shot of philly you posted.
No go ahead MD you made the statement without anything to back it up and prove it; didnt you just make some statement last week on one of my posts. Go ahead prove it with your stats.
I believe you made some comment oh I think this was the quote
Ok....I will give you a little SAT reading comprehension crash course and then I'll be done with this waste of time!
This is what I said!!!
"What is the difference between going from Georgetown down M street, up 14th street to Columbia Heights, over to Georgia Ave., down to Union Station through NOMA, down to SW capital river front, and over to the SW Waterfront?"
"That is the size of DC's Downtown based on Phillys definition of downtown. If DC uses the definition's Philly uses for Center City, Downtown DC goes from the Potomac River, up to Silver Spring Maryland, and over to the Anacostia River."
"And no, Center City doesn't have a higher population than the area I just mapped out."
So.....to translate this information for you....I said using the criteria you Philly people use to map out your center city...our downtown DC would encompass 70%-75% of our city without interruption. That's about 400,000-450,000 people especially since about 75% of the population lives in this area.....Now go back and try to comprehend what was written.
Your posters are the ones who keep saying center city is river to river while really just trying to counter our claim that center city is small by saying that. Remember when your posters were saying how big it was then you tried to correct them? It is what it is. Let this go kidphilly. What each city has is best for each city respectively. Let it be!
I never really got that big city feel in downtown DC. Don't get me wrong, its an awesome area with a lot to do, but to me it doesn't feel as vibrant or urban as City Center. I will say, though, DC probably does have a more consistant urban fabric overall.
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Ok....I will give you a little SAT reading comprehension crash course and then I'll be done with this waste of time!
This is what I said!!!
"What is the difference between going from Georgetown down M street, up 14th street to Columbia Heights, over to Georgia Ave., down to Union Station through NOMA, down to SW capital river front, and over to the SW Waterfront?"
"That is the size of DC's Downtown based on Phillys definition of downtown. If DC uses the definition's Philly uses for Center City, Downtown DC goes from the Potomac River, up to Silver Spring Maryland, and over to the Anacostia River."
"And no, Center City doesn't have a higher population than the area I just mapped out."
So.....to translate this information for you....I said using the criteria you Philly people use to map out your center city...our downtown DC would encompass 70%-75% of our city without interruption. That's about 400,000-450,000 people especially since about 75% of the population lives in this area.....Now go back and try to comprehend what was written.
Your posters are the ones who keep saying center city is river to river while really just trying to counter our claim that center city is small by saying that. Remember when your posters were saying how big it was then you tried to correct them? It is what it is. Let this go kidphilly. What each city has is best for each city respectively. Let it be!
What we call CC; that is the limits of it and yes it is only 2 sq miles; so what is your point then on the other areas, WTF do they have to do with a DT. and how are we adding one inch of extra space.
So riddle me this then MD - where does Philly end the continuity of development? as you say you can keep going in DC; well so can you Philly and actually for probably twice the distance with denser development. Philly is a lot bigger in terms of population and continuity of development but again what does this have to do with the respective DTs
and HTF does the 2 sq mile area of CC translate to an area out to Silver Springs in the suburbs?
and lastly since DT DC is so much larger in footprint why do so few people actually live there?
One more thing, uniformity in height is boring and bland. Buildings of different sizes and heights make a neighborhood unique and give it visual appeal.
One more thing, uniformity in height is boring and bland. Buildings of different sizes and heights make a neighborhood unique and give it visual appeal.
Touche haha, but in my defense each time in this thread pics comparing CC to DT DC have been posted next to each other, Philly has looked better every single time.
^^^ So you mean to tell me that someone can only go 3 miles away from CC
and start seeing crazy Surface lots like that? In DC it wouldn't matter if
you went 3 or 30 miles outside of it's DT you still wouldn't see surface lots like that.
BTW here's a look over DC from way above just like that one I post of Philly.
DC has plenty of surface parking lots...while none as big as the one in Philly (however as stated that area holds all of the sports areans)
The Pentagon complex has a huge surface parking lot, there are surface lots near Nationals Stadium, and the Capital Building has a surface lot in front of the building. There is a Costco at Pentagon Row in Arlington that has a surface lot. Fedex field has a huge parking lot as well. the Mall is lined with surface lots as well.
Well Paris has far more interesting architecture and another thing Paris does does to add to Vibrancy is actually incorporates seemlessly shopping and residential (tons of it) not to mention it also has skyscrapers
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. Somethings you just gotta admit and take with a grain of salt. Philly just like many other places DC included are not perfect, so get over it already.
