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Old 05-07-2021, 03:38 PM
 
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Atlanta may have a larger Asian community than Miami, but let’s not pretend it’s anywhere near a real metro that has at minimum a Chinatown. Both cities have less than 5% based on what I quickly googled. Correct me if I’m wrong.
What do you mean? It's one of the highest populations for Koreans.

Duluth/Suwanee is probably the 3rd best Koreatown in the nation right behind LA and Bergen County Jersey.

https://goo.gl/maps/h9yvWcV93QVfzg3U8
https://goo.gl/maps/jow5QAKKKZhMkbbA8
https://goo.gl/maps/wXqay8yH9yudtrfi7
https://goo.gl/maps/3SzHD9URef1qgEqn8 (looks empty here but they're all filled with Korean businesses now with the largest Korean spa - Spaland) https://www.yelp.com/biz/spa-land-and-sauna-duluth-3 (reviews)
https://goo.gl/maps/VJMwj2YePDshQzzw5
https://goo.gl/maps/tTT8cHYfUTVFCTBS9

https://goo.gl/maps/gCDjgNigiRZNU6cr8 (the only mega mart outside of Korea, 3 floors of Korean shopping and food)

These are some of the Korean business centers in Duluth and Suwanee. There are a lot more and even more on the way (new construction plazas).

These are some of the plazas in Duluth and Suwanee:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt9CE_XoyfI

Outside of there, you have locations of Korean business in Johns Creek (anchored by Super H Mart), Doraville (anchored by Super H Mart), and they're expanding into Buford/Sugar Hill.

This video is about why so many Koreans are moving to Georgia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUqK6-hpmYs
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Old 05-07-2021, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Rahway, NJ
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Atlanta hands down.
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Old 05-07-2021, 08:28 PM
 
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1. When I lived in Atlanta I ran into a lot of Miami people so this is very true. Also Atlanta has quite a few Caribbean transplants originally from S.Fla. You'll probably see more migrate into Atlanta as long as the cost of living continues to go up.

2. I recall hearing about White supremacist groups holding rallies at Stone Mountain days past and I think one recently when they started discussing the removal of the confederate soldiers on Stone Mountain. But on a everyday basis I think Miami's racism is more of a everyday passing by interaction type of racism/ discrimination. That's not to say you don't experience that kind of racism in Atlanta but you have to really be out in the far burbs to experience it like that on a daily basis. I think that kind of interaction racism is more avoidable in Atlanta more so because there's so many Black spaces in the city and in the metro period. Atlanta does suffer just like every other city in America from structural/ institutional racism.
Of course I was being sarcastic in my other post but I did want to add to what you said for people who dont know Atlanta pretty well as you or i.
The areas in the further out ex-burbs where it would be most likely to encounter some of that passive racsim is North closer to the mountains but even then people are extremely friendly. The heaviest black populations are in the East and South.
I agree it is most definitely more avoidable. Almost totally avoidable if you choose to live in a majority black area. I honestly believe this is a major allure for many blacks from around the country. Its an option or you can live like most people in a very diverse integrated community .Just nice to have options which is something whites dont have to consider in their check off list.
Middle class to wealthy black areas where if you are black you wont have a fear of being profiled being in the wrong place are not as common and plentiful everywhere as it is in Atlanta.
That type of peace of mind is priceless to many and trumps (yeh I know) anything over something like a beach.
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Old 05-07-2021, 09:51 PM
 
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Miami > Atlanta.
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Old 05-07-2021, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Atlanta > Miami
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Old 05-07-2021, 10:22 PM
 
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It goes without saying that Miami's foreign-born population is very high at 41.6% of the overall metropolitan population, but a whopping 87% are from Latin America with only 5% from Asia, another 5% from Europe, and only 1% from Africa.

Atlanta's foreign-born population is obviously much more modest at only 14.2% of the population, but also arguably more diverse with 45% hailing from Latin America, 34% from Asia, 11% from Africa, and 8% from Europe.
People will say that Atlanta is more diverse than Miami/South Florida because there's more Asians and Africans. I beg to differ. The largest Caribbean community lives in FL, especially South Florida, with Orlando ranking within the Top 10 MSAs having the largest Caribbean community. While NYC MSA is number one, Miami is a close second and much more concentrated than NYC. Atlanta is in the Top 10, but Philadelphia is just right behind it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Indian_Americans

Also, the Latino population in GA is almost monolithic, with a lion's share of the Latinos being of Mexican descent, followed by smaller amounts of Puerto Ricans, Cubans, and Central Americans. In FL, you'll meet just about every Latino demographic wherever in FL you go to as well as just about every Caribbean demographic in FL. There's going to be a time when the African population in FL will be bigger than the one in GA, I'd put money on it.

As for Africans, they'll feel more at home anywhere in FL than in Atlanta. Atlanta for the past decade has degenerated into an androgynous mess and the typical African from Ghana, Nigeria, Liberia, and Ethiopia has no time in messing with that. FL is much more family friendly and it's much more than Miami and South Beach. This isn't to slam the LGBT community but the typical immigrant isn't looking to get tipsy and crunk in Atlanta, there's just too much energy in working and if Latino and Caribbean immigrants can make it in FL, then so can Africans.
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Old 05-07-2021, 11:07 PM
 
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People will say that Atlanta is more diverse than Miami/South Florida because there's more Asians and Africans. I beg to differ. The largest Caribbean community lives in FL, especially South Florida, with Orlando ranking within the Top 10 MSAs having the largest Caribbean community. While NYC MSA is number one, Miami is a close second and much more concentrated than NYC. Atlanta is in the Top 10, but Philadelphia is just right behind it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Indian_Americans

Also, the Latino population in GA is almost monolithic, with a lion's share of the Latinos being of Mexican descent, followed by smaller amounts of Puerto Ricans, Cubans, and Central Americans. In FL, you'll meet just about every Latino demographic wherever in FL you go to as well as just about every Caribbean demographic in FL. There's going to be a time when the African population in FL will be bigger than the one in GA, I'd put money on it.

As for Africans, they'll feel more at home anywhere in FL than in Atlanta. Atlanta for the past decade has degenerated into an androgynous mess and the typical African from Ghana, Nigeria, Liberia, and Ethiopia has no time in messing with that. FL is much more family friendly and it's much more than Miami and South Beach. This isn't to slam the LGBT community but the typical immigrant isn't looking to get tipsy and crunk in Atlanta, there's just too much energy in working and if Latino and Caribbean immigrants can make it in FL, then so can Africans.
Jeez,this is probably a waste of time but here goes.
FOR THE ONE HUNDRETH TIME GEORGIA IS A STATE.ATLANTA IS A CITY.THEY ARE NOT THE SAME!

Have you been following the thread? Data from the Census was posted outlining
the top 10 cities for each nationality living in the US.
By your statement about Atlanta we can say the Miami Latino populaton is more Cuban than anything so does that mean its not a diverse Latino metro when Cuabns make
up more than 55 percent of the Latino community in Miami?
I had more but Mutiny is more eloquent than I so I have erased and will defer to him and let him respond further to this ridiculous post

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Old Yesterday, 11:53 AM
 
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So Koreans represent all Asians now? Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, Your overall Asian population isn’t even double digits so it’s not like you’re California, Hawaii, or New York, but you do certainly have Florida beat.

Now what I have gathered from your post and videos and posts from other members is that Atlanta has a GROWING asian population and will most likely lead the south in that growth area. Continue diversifying your tech economy (including universities) and watch your asian population grow.

Again, although it’s in Orlando and not Miami, H Mart, the largest Asian supermarket chain in the country is opening a 183,894 square foot 18 acre store (far larger than most other stores) in Florida despite such a low asian population. As you know, businesses are “for profit” entities and will only do business after demographics, demand, and projected profitability are there.

https://progressivegrocer.com/h-mart...splash-florida


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What do you mean? It's one of the highest populations for Koreans.

Duluth/Suwanee is probably the 3rd best Koreatown in the nation right behind LA and Bergen County Jersey.

https://goo.gl/maps/h9yvWcV93QVfzg3U8
https://goo.gl/maps/jow5QAKKKZhMkbbA8
https://goo.gl/maps/wXqay8yH9yudtrfi7
https://goo.gl/maps/3SzHD9URef1qgEqn8 (looks empty here but they're all filled with Korean businesses now with the largest Korean spa - Spaland) https://www.yelp.com/biz/spa-land-and-sauna-duluth-3 (reviews)
https://goo.gl/maps/VJMwj2YePDshQzzw5
https://goo.gl/maps/tTT8cHYfUTVFCTBS9

https://goo.gl/maps/gCDjgNigiRZNU6cr8 (the only mega mart outside of Korea, 3 floors of Korean shopping and food)

These are some of the Korean business centers in Duluth and Suwanee. There are a lot more and even more on the way (new construction plazas).

These are some of the plazas in Duluth and Suwanee:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt9CE_XoyfI

Outside of there, you have locations of Korean business in Johns Creek (anchored by Super H Mart), Doraville (anchored by Super H Mart), and they're expanding into Buford/Sugar Hill.

This video is about why so many Koreans are moving to Georgia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUqK6-hpmYs

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Old Yesterday, 11:56 AM
 
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Thanks for the detailed response...care to expand?

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Atlanta hands down.
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Old Yesterday, 07:35 PM
 
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So Koreans represent all Asians now? Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, Your overall Asian population isn’t even double digits so it’s not like you’re California, Hawaii, or New York, but you do certainly have Florida beat.

Now what I have gathered from your post and videos and posts from other members is that Atlanta has a GROWING asian population and will most likely lead the south in that growth area. Continue diversifying your tech economy (including universities) and watch your asian population grow.

Again, although it’s in Orlando and not Miami, H Mart, the largest Asian supermarket chain in the country is opening a 183,894 square foot 18 acre store (far larger than most other stores) in Florida despite such a low asian population. As you know, businesses are “for profit” entities and will only do business after demographics, demand, and projected profitability are there.

https://progressivegrocer.com/h-mart...splash-florida
What you gathered is missing some things that were clearly posted earlier.
Atlanta ranked at #5 in,there are 33,000 Koreans at last count in the metro Atlanta area. Compare that to NYC with over 140,000. As a percentage of the total population,Atlantas is much higher

Here is a link with list of all the Koreatowns
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreatown

I specifically also said Atlanta has a large Vietnamese population that is also ranked on the top 10 metros. As you have already acknowledged Atlanta diverse African diaspora,for comparison,there are over 34,000 Jamaicans in Atlanta which is ranked third in number . Its substantial difference between these two cities but m would not be if it were to be considered among the largest cities like LA,SF,DC,etc
Atlanta also ranks in the top 10 for Bangledesh and Pakistan.

Im not going to comment Orlando as its not in the thread. I mentioned to Asian chains that are in metro Atlanta. Not one. They each at least have two stores in the metro.
Thats four more than Miami.
Even showed you stats where Asians make up double digits in some parts of Atlanta so I dony see why you need to make this a point of contention when its obvious its many factors that show its more substantial enough

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H Mart will become a place to experience the best of what communities have to offer, providing a convenient one-stop shopping place for diverse cultures and to the neighborhood, where different ethnicities of friends and neighbors can come, gather and enjoy
.

There in the bold is why they are eyeing Florida. Makes sense. I shop at HMart near me occasionally and I can promise you that you will see as many Africans and Caribbeans in there as you will Asians.
as immigrant cultures use similar ingredients even if they are used and prepared differently. They overlap communities.Where the Hmarts and the Nae Dae Muns are in Atlanta is specifically in Asian areas.
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In 2004, the very first Super H Mart opened in Duluth, Georgia.
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After its 2001 opening, an H Mart location in Northern Virginia gained many Hispanic American employees. After cultural conflicts between Hispanic and Korean American employees in one store, the H Mart headquarters provided an intercultural training course, with translations in Spanish.
Where ever they put them in FL will definitely be in a heavy immigrant areas but will be lacking the Asian component . They have already identified the largest Asian markets in the US so naturally as an unintended bonus they have a large Hispanic as well as African and Caribbean population patronizing their stores as noted in the quote
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