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That's very odd reasoning from the both of you...extremely odd actually. How is Boston "too far from the center of the action"? It's a day trip to drive to DC. I understand Philadelphia is located between the two, but it's not like it's Denver and located 1,000 miles away from the nearest city.
NYC was never 'out of reach' when I used to live up there, but in relative terms NYC is much less accessible from Boston than Philly. I wouldn't do it every day, but on an occasional basis, I have no problem going to NYC, doing a full days work, then going home to Philly. I would not do that out of Boston.
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That's very odd reasoning from the both of you...extremely odd actually. How is Boston "too far from the center of the action"? It's a day trip to drive to DC. I understand Philadelphia is located between the two, but it's not like it's Denver and located 1,000 miles away from the nearest city.
NYC was never 'out of reach' when I used to live up there, but in relative terms NYC is much less accessible from Boston than Philly. I wouldn't do it every day, but on an occasional basis, I have no problem going to NYC, doing a full days work, then going home to Philly. I would not do that out of Boston.
Ok, so we can't do day-trips to Manhattan. I still don't see how that means Boston is "too far from the center of the action".
Philly has quite a bit more AMTRAK traffic than Boston - 3,787,331 passengers in 2010. Boston's two stops had a combined total of 1,756279 passengers, not shabby but Philly's numbers are very high in comparison. D.C.'s union station (gorgeous) is # 2 at 4,572,878 passengers, and we know #1 is NYC - 8.378 million
The significant majority of rail passengers coming into NYC is from Philly and D.C., followed by Boston. Baltimore is in distant fourth place.
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Ok, so we can't do day-trips to Manhattan. I still don't see how that means Boston is "too far from the center of the action".
That's very odd reasoning from the both of you...extremely odd actually. How is Boston "too far from the center of the action"? It's a day trip to drive to DC. I understand Philadelphia is located between the two, but it's not like it's Denver and located 1,000 miles away from the nearest city.
Could you explain what Boston is missing out on?
I'm not saying its remote like Butte, Montana or anything, but its not in as convenient of a location as Philly. You can live in Philly and reasonably commute to jobs in NYC, Baltimore, and DC. Add to that the fact that Philly is larger, and I think that settles it.
I'm not saying its remote like Butte, Montana or anything, but its not in as convenient of a location as Philly. You can live in Philly and reasonably commute to jobs in NYC, Baltimore, and DC. Add to that the fact that Philly is larger, and I think that settles it.
You're joking...right?
By Google Maps:
Driving from Philly to NYC is 2 hours each way. 2 hrs 20 min by transit.
To Baltimore: 2 hours driving, 2 hrs 20 minutes by transit
To DC: 2 3/4 hours driving, 3 hrs by transit.
Not really a "reasonable" commute.
Philadelphia is larger though, so at least you've got that right.
72 minutes via Acela express, and don't tell me somebody working in NYC can't afford that. Transit sucks, requires a switch in Trenton. That should be fixed. In real life, the bus usually take 1 hour, 50 minutes and thanks to bus lanes you can go into Manhattan right in the middle of rush hour, unlike car drivers. Acela is still the best but if you can deal with an 85 minute trip (13 extra minutes!), you can ride Amtrak for as little as $49, and ten-packs of tickets run $552. If one commutes often enough, monthly passes are $1,242 and yes people do that (please refer to Philly's huge Amtrak numbers, they are not commuting to D.C. or Baltimore) http://amtraktrack.blogspot.com/2011...ts-amtrak.html
NYC jobs carry a premium. We're not talking about a daily commute, just a commute for work purposes. I'm a photographer and I do it, but I could just as well be an architect or a sales person or any number of things where commuting to Manhattan for work - on occasion - from Philly makes sense.
I've heard arguments about this commute before. Many New Yorkers have million+ dollar mortgages and still face a half hour or more dealing with the subways. Quite a few folks live in Brooklyn and work in Midtown, they face a daily commute of between 30 minutes and 45 minutes, each way... and a much less comfortable one. The thing about Amtrak is you can take a nap.
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You're joking...right?
By Google Maps:
Driving from Philly to NYC is 2 hours each way. 2 hrs 20 min by transit.
To Baltimore: 2 hours driving, 2 hrs 20 minutes by transit
To DC: 2 3/4 hours driving, 3 hrs by transit.
Not really a "reasonable" commute.
Philadelphia is larger though, so at least you've got that right.
72 minutes via Acela express, and don't tell me somebody working in NYC can't afford that. Transit sucks, requires a switch in Trenton. That should be fixed. In real life, the bus usually take 1 hour, 50 minutes and thanks to bus lanes you can go into Manhattan right in the middle of rush hour, unlike car drivers. Acela is still the best but if you can deal with an 85 minute trip (13 extra minutes!), you can ride Amtrak for $49. If one commutes often enough, monthly passes are $1,242 and yes people do that (please refer to Philly's huge Amtrak numbers, they are not commuting to D.C. or Baltimore) Amtrak 'Multi-Ride' 2011 Costs - Amtrak Commuter Pass / Monthly Pass for the Philly-NYC Commuter. - Amtrak Tracking for My Commute Between New York City and Philadelphia
NYC jobs carry a premium. We're not talking about a daily commute, just a commute for work purposes. I'm a photographer and I do it, but I could just as well be an architect or a sales person or any number of things where commuting to Manhattan for work - on occasion - from Philly makes sense.
Good point. I just find it odd to think of a city better than another because you can commute to some other major city...and yes, many Manhattanites can afford the $1,242 monthly pass...but at the same time, if you can afford that then why wouldn't you just live in Manhattan?
Regardless, I just find it to be a weak argument (from others, not you)
P.S. Tried to rep you, but I've got to spread it around.
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