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Old 08-25-2011, 11:04 PM
 
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Hey although Chicago has a high crime rate just as Gary Indiana does, I'd like to know why is Gary Indiana considered to be so bad?
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Old 08-26-2011, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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Moved to city vs city forum
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Old 08-26-2011, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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I'm guessing because its smaller and more concentrated.
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:07 PM
 
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Hey although Chicago has a high crime rate just as Gary Indiana does, I'd like to know why is Gary Indiana considered to be so bad?
Have you been to both cities? Gary is literally abandoned, crime infested and falling apart. Chicago's crime rates are lower, even the worst areas of Chicago still pack in thousands of people per square mile and are functional to a decent degree, and the streets/infrastructure is much more intact.

Gary's murder rate is over 3 times that of Chicago.

The bad areas of Chicago at least have the 2/3 of the city that's stable/prospering to prop them up and subsidize their services, police, fire, schools.

Gary is pretty much on its own since a vast majority of the city is crap and can't pull in money to better itself.
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I wonder why in cases like Gary people don't just say "Ok, well this just isn't working. It's not a 'too big to fail' situation like Detroit, so let's just move everyone out of here and bring in the bulldozers".
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:45 PM
 
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I wonder why in cases like Gary people don't just say "Ok, well this just isn't working. It's not a 'too big to fail' situation like Detroit, so let's just move everyone out of here and bring in the bulldozers".
In some ways they are:

1910 15,802 —
1920 55,378 250.4%
1930 100,666 81.8%
1940 111,719 11.0%
1950 133,911 19.9%
1960 178,320 33.2%
1970 175,415 −1.6%
1980 144,953 −17.4%
1990 116,646 −19.5%
2000 102,746 −11.9%
2010 80,294 −21.9%
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Old 08-26-2011, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Denver
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True. I just wish they'd rip the band aid off already....get it over with!
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Old 08-26-2011, 02:12 PM
 
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Because Chicago in general is known for much, much more than just its high crime areas, which tend to be concentrated in certain areas of the south and west sides of the city. Gary, IN on the other hand, doesn't have much else at all going for it, except for the U.S. Steel plant and the birthplace of the Jacksons. So if you're talking about the identities of each city, it's pretty obvious....mention Gary, IN and the first thing I think of is the high crime, whereas Chicago, there are a dozen things I think of before that.

It's the same for, say, St. Louis, MO and East St. Louis, IL. There are parts of the north side of STL that are just as bad, if not worse, than ESL...but because St. Louis, MO has so many other things to identify itself with other than the (admittedly bad) crime in certain areas, it doesn't have the same stigma as East St. Louis, where crime is the first thing you think of.
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Old 08-26-2011, 02:31 PM
 
Location: a bar
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I wonder why in cases like Gary people don't just say "Ok, well this just isn't working. It's not a 'too big to fail' situation like Detroit, so let's just move everyone out of here and bring in the bulldozers".
You just need to attract a few gays, and before you know it, the property values will be through the roof.
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Old 08-26-2011, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Denver
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You just need to attract a few gays, and before you know it, the property values will be through the roof.
True. Then what was previously seen as "decrepid" is now seen as "artsy".
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