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Old 09-19-2011, 03:27 AM
 
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If they are better, tell me how.

Blue collar:
Detroit
Miami
Buffalo
Los Angeles

White collar:
SF
Seattle
Pittsburgh
Boston
Minneapolis
Dc



I didn't add New York, Philly or Chicago due to it being a mix of diversity in its collars.
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Old 09-19-2011, 06:55 AM
 
Location: MIA/DC
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Plain and simple because they are better cities, white collar cities attract unmatchable innovative talent. Blue collar cities attract laborers that make low wages and do heavy listing tasks. NYC isn't anything but white collar, after decades of gentrification and attracting both immigrant talent and talent from across the nation its priced out and the only way to live there is if you're making a minimum income thats double or triple the national average. SF, Boston, Seattle, and DC are other cities with similar situations. LA, Houston, Minneapolis, and Dallas are some other cities quickly headed in that direction and in the next 10 to 15 years they will be in the same boat. Chicago and Miami are just a step behind those others but are getting there too.

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Old 09-19-2011, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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"Blue collar cities attract laborers that make low wages and do heavy listing tasks"

White collar does not always mean high wage (especially in todays economy) and Blue collar sure does not mean low wage. An electrician in a union or a police officer making $100,000+ is still considered blue collar as an administrative assistant making $30,000 is still white collar.
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Old 09-19-2011, 07:31 AM
 
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Plain and simple because they are better cities, white collar cities attract unmatchable innovative talent. Blue collar cities attract laborers that make low wages and do heavy listing tasks. NYC isn't anything but white collar, after decades of gentrification and attracting both immigrant talent and talent from across the nation its priced out and the only way to live there is if you're making a minimum wage thats double or triple the national average. SF, Boston, Seattle, and DC are other cities with similar situations. LA, Houston, Minneapolis, and Dallas are some other cities quickly headed in that direction and in the next 10 to 15 years they will be in the same boat. Chicago and Miami are just a step behind those others but are getting there too.
Most of the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, SI are very Blue Collar.
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Old 09-19-2011, 07:34 AM
 
Location: MIA/DC
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Most of the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, SI are very Blue Collar.
Most of the Bronx, Queens, and Brooklyn isn't where the expanse of 22 million in the Tristate area commute to. That commute is mostly to Manhattan and north New Jersey which is about as white collar as it gets.

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Old 09-19-2011, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Darien, CT
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Most of the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, SI are very Blue Collar.
We go by metro and New York metro is perhaps the whitest collar metro on the planet. The highest paying jobs and high the greatest share of high net work folks live in NYC region. Besides, the numbers don't add up.
Median Income

Staten Island, NY: $71,206
San Francisco: $70,770
Seattle, WA: $60,305
Washington, DC: $59,290
Boston, MA: $55,979
Queens, NY: $55,120
Minneapolis, MN: $45,338
Brooklyn, NY: $43,446
Pittsburgh, PA: $37,461

Queens and Staten Island are higher income than most of the "white collar cities" listed. Queens is just as "white collar" as Boston. Brooklyn is far more white collar than Pittsburgh but just as white collar as Minneapolis.

(that is if white collar = income)

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Old 09-19-2011, 08:00 AM
 
Location: MIA/DC
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"Blue collar cities attract laborers that make low wages and do heavy listing tasks"

White collar does not always mean high wage (especially in todays economy) and Blue collar sure does not mean low wage. An electrician in a union or a police officer making $100,000+ is still considered blue collar as an administrative assistant making $30,000 is still white collar.
I don't know what kind of city you live in but there's a clear distinction on income here in DC between the white collar workers and blue collar workers. Point is cities with white collar industries shove the uneducated downtrodden lazy poors out to fill in more productivity with ambitious and talented workers with a respectable education. This is what pricing your city out and gentrifying will do, it leads to an end to welfare programs and the city has less use of government agencies for the lazy and unskilled and more for infrastructure and maintenance.
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Old 09-19-2011, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I don't know what kind of city you live in but there's a clear distinction on income here in DC between the white collar workers and blue collar workers. Point is cities with white collar industries shove the uneducated downtrodden lazy poors out to fill in more productivity with ambitious and talented workers with a respectable education.
Well I suppose that would be the POV from DC which never had a large Blue Collar base. But IMO it is perfectly respectable to go to a trade school join a union and make upwards of 6 figures. A college degree means less and less nowadays (especially when you are paying tuition instead of working full time for 4 years) and white collar industry jobs can be very tempermental. But 10-20 years ago you might be able to generalize the industries that way.
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Old 09-19-2011, 08:17 AM
 
Location: MIA/DC
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Well I suppose that would be the POV from DC which never had a large Blue Collar base. But IMO it is perfectly respectable to go to a trade school join a union and make upwards of 6 figures. A college degree means less and less nowadays (especially when you are paying tuition instead of working full time for 4 years) and white collar industry jobs can be very tempermental. But 10-20 years ago you might be able to generalize the industries that way.
Education is one of the only strings that keep America afloat. Americans have become accustomed to laziness and moronic mainstream culture and for every 1 lazy American you have 1,000 immigrants in the third world lined up to replace them. NYC attracts talent from across the world and a college degree/student visas is how they end up in NYC. You think they have the means to pay for tuition for schools like Columbia? If you're smart and willing to work then money is not a hurdle in your pursuit of education you can get scholarships, loans, and grants that you can pay off later to receive that education. Those degrees make the difference and lazy unskilled Americans are to blinded by the mainstream culture to realize whats happening. America today is becoming more obese, increasing in poverty, and becoming less educated and NYC is doing the exact opposite of America.

Why do you think places like NYC, DC, SF, Seattle, Boston have higher wages than other cities? They're gentrifying, educating, becoming safer, and attracting that talent.
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Old 09-19-2011, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Boston
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If they are better, tell me how.

Blue collar:
Detroit
Miami
Buffalo
Los Angeles

White collar:
SF
Seattle
Pittsburgh
Boston
Minneapolis
Dc



I didn't add New York, Philly or Chicago due to it being a mix of diversity in its collars.
I can't speak for all of these, but Boston and Los Angeles are both blue and white collar.
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