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It's why I like Oakland. It's a raw, real city. It's the origination of many fringe political movements which makes it interesting.
Good point. Oakland is too "radical" for me, however, how about Sebastopol, with the green party in power? Compare that to Democrat Jerry Brown, former Oakland Mayor, ho could be much further to the left than he is. I mean, he just cut 1.6 billion for affordable housing out of the State Budget.
How about Ashland, where many San Francisco area folks have moved?
There are many great thinkers there both on the Libertarian right, and the radical left. That's why I listed Santa Fe due to its liberal radical politics, with many Californians who have moved in.
Other cities that *MIGHT* be on this list in 10 years might include Albuquerque, Durango, Colorado and Bend, Oregon (IF AND WHEN Bend ever decides to challenge it's self-imposed Status Quo, driven by second home owners and the local Realtors / Politicians - give Bend 20 years time for that to happen . . . ).
^Those cities are all smaller though, especially Sebastapol & Bend, so I suppose it depends what size of a city we're talking. I doubt there are many cities on Oakland's scale who would've voted activists such as Dellums or Quan in as their mayors, or which would've challenged the federal government on medical marijuana like Oakland.
Good point. Oakland is too "radical" for me, however, how about Sebastopol, with the green party in power? Compare that to Democrat Jerry Brown, former Oakland Mayor, ho could be much further to the left than he is. I mean, he just cut 1.6 billion for affordable housing out of the State Budget.
How about Ashland, where many San Francisco area folks have moved?
There are many great thinkers there both on the Libertarian right, and the radical left. That's why I listed Santa Fe due to its liberal radical politics, with many Californians who have moved in.
Other cities that *MIGHT* be on this list in 10 years might include Albuquerque, Durango, Colorado and Bend, Oregon (IF AND WHEN Bend ever decides to challenge it's self-imposed Status Quo, driven by second home owners and the local Realtors / Politicians - give Bend 20 years time for that to happen . . . ).
With the exception of Albuquerque and Santa Fe, I would not consider any of the places you listed as "cities". They are "towns". And Albuquerque and Santa Fe just barely make it as a "city" IMO.
Oakland is a real city. It's a very urban, dense city with a lot of real, groundroots, in your face, angry leftist, Black nationalist politics going on. It's too much for mainstream America to handle.
San Franciscans are the type of latte liberals that the Republicans like to laugh at. Oaklanders are the type of angry leftist that the Republicans are scared to death of!
With the exception of Albuquerque and Santa Fe, I would not consider any of the places you listed as "cities". They are "towns". And Albuquerque and Santa Fe just barely make it as a "city" IMO.
Oakland is a real city. It's a very urban, dense city with a lot of real, groundroots, in your face, angry leftist, Black nationalist politics going on. It's too much for mainstream America to handle.
San Franciscans are the type of latte liberals that the Republicans like to laugh at. Oaklanders are the type of angry leftist that the Republicans are scared to death of!
San Francisco, and Santa Fe, also have the highest minimum wages in the country, at $10+ an hour. To me, being radical is about Social Liberalism, so that puts both cities near the top of my list ...
Bend is attracting many folks from the Bay Area and L.A. with liberal political views. However, the current City Council and County officials do not have enough of a "liberal" agenda in stimulating business growth, in my opinion (for example unemployment remains stuck at 13% despite the large influx of highly educated California labor).
If this changes then Bend could become another Portland, and also be on this list.
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Sedona, Arizona due to its spiritualism, and Santa Fe, New Mexico due to its un-compromising far left politics and people.
I fail to see how this is "Radical". Radical people tend to provoke and lean towards the lunatic fringe. Spiritualism and common everyday lefties arn't really that provocative simply because they have a different set of beliefs. Not to mention how would un-compromising far right politics be any different? There's certainly no denying the prevalence of that in say congress and several other locations in this country.
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San Francisco, and Santa Fe, also have the highest minimum wages in the country, at $10+ an hour. To me, being radical is about Social Liberalism, so that puts both cities near the top of my list ...
The same could be said for social conservatism, you're not making a very valid point here. Consider that Santa Fe actually has livable wages coupled with 5% unemployment, well below the national average and I'd say the sky isn't falling there. When people start smashing windows at Starbucks and rioting in the streets of Santa Fe then I might reconsider your point. Otherwise you may want to brush up on the definition of radical.
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Anarchists are guility of BREAKING THE LAW and should be FINED AND JAILED
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When people start smashing windows at Starbucks and rioting in the streets of Santa Fe then I might reconsider your point. Otherwise you may want to brush up on the definition of radical.
However, smashing windows is Anarachism and is AGAINST THE LAW so I object to the anarchist occupiers. Seattle, Oakland, get national press for people that are breaking the law. Many people are looking for spiritual and radical jobs where people adopt either far right conservative ideals or far left communal liberalism and participate in philantrophic activities based on their point of view. And they do these activities PEACEFULLY. I want no part of ANY town where such behavior occurs, period. These anarchists will get worse in 2012.
How about Crestone, Colorado? (with statues for Buddhism) Do they have protestors? Violent protesting is not consistent with the beliefs of most religions who practice peace.....Anarchists should be fined and jailed because they are breaking the law.....
I would certainly add Crestone to the list due to the number of alternative religions nearby.
Milwaukee is the only city to have had three socialist mayors.
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Sebastopol???
