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Since someone dusted this thread off, I'd like to correct a statement made often in it.
I don't know if anyone else has done so, and if they have, pardon my redundancy, but:
Mercer County, NJ, is not in the New York MSA. It's in the New York CSA.
The Consolidated Statistical Area is an economically interconnected region consisting of more than one MSA and/or µSA. Mercer County, NJ, home to the state capital as well as a significant employment hub beyond the university in and around Princeton, is its own MSA: Trenton.
Given that you can get from most places in the county to New York on regional rail without changing trains, while the only place you can get to Philadelphia from in that fashion is Trenton, and given that there are probably more Middlesex County residents commuting to Princeton than there are Bucks County residents doing so, by the OMB's definitions, Mercer County may well rightly belong in the New York CSA.
But it's not in the New York DMA ("designated market area" — media market); it's in Philadelphia's. Most Mercerites watch Philadelphia rather than New York TV stations, and more than one Philadelphia media outlet maintains a Trenton bureau and covers Mercer County local stories as part of their mix. OTOH, the only New York media outlet with reporters on the ground in Mercer is The New York Times, and their reporter is there mainly to cover New Jersey state government. Hell, there's a Chickie's and Pete's outlet on US 206 in the county — that's a chain of restaurants and sports bars rooted in Philadelphia. I don't know too many New York-oriented establishments of this type located in the county.
Since someone dusted this thread off, I'd like to correct a statement made often in it.
I don't know if anyone else has done so, and if they have, pardon my redundancy, but:
Mercer County, NJ, is not in the New York MSA. It's in the New York CSA.
The Consolidated Statistical Area is an economically interconnected region consisting of more than one MSA and/or µSA. Mercer County, NJ, home to the state capital as well as a significant employment hub beyond the university in and around Princeton, is its own MSA: Trenton.
Given that you can get from most places in the county to New York on regional rail without changing trains, while the only place you can get to Philadelphia from in that fashion is Trenton, and given that there are probably more Middlesex County residents commuting to Princeton than there are Bucks County residents doing so, by the OMB's definitions, Mercer County may well rightly belong in the New York CSA.
But it's not in the New York DMA ("designated market area" — media market); it's in Philadelphia's. Most Mercerites watch Philadelphia rather than New York TV stations, and more than one Philadelphia media outlet maintains a Trenton bureau and covers Mercer County local stories as part of their mix. OTOH, the only New York media outlet with reporters on the ground in Mercer is The New York Times, and their reporter is there mainly to cover New Jersey state government. Hell, there's a Chickie's and Pete's outlet on US 206 in the county — that's a chain of restaurants and sports bars rooted in Philadelphia. I don't know too many New York-oriented establishments of this type located in the county.
Yeah im on Princeton's campus every week. It leans PHL over NYC.
I have friends who moved to the Princeton area years ago because the husband worked in Philly and the wife worked in North Jersey. It was basically halfway for them.
That said, Princeton University is kind of its own thing. That area though, Mercer County, as has been pointed out is more covered by the Philly area news and media outlets.
I have friends who moved to the Princeton area years ago because the husband worked in Philly and the wife worked in North Jersey. It was basically halfway for them.
That said, Princeton University is kind of its own thing. That area though, Mercer County, as has been pointed out is more covered by the Philly area news and media outlets.
I agree. It is also crazy how a 20 minute drive to the Brunswicks are a completely different world than Princeton…
Princeton was, historically, the most Southern (in terms of whence students were drawn) of the colonial-era colleges north of the Mason-Dixon Line. It was a Presbyterian school (Columbia was Anglican, by contrast; Yale was a hiving off of conservative Congregationalists who felt Harvard had become too rationalist), and attracted religiously conservative students in its origins. In the late 19th and early 20th century, there was a lot of interaction between Princeton and the notionally public gentleman's school that was then the University of Virginia.
That said, Princeton historically leaned southwest more than northeast, as it were. IIRC, The Lawrenceville School did likewise.
Were more of a … Trenton school. If you had to assign a city
The fabled Central jersey . Yeah, i've been several times, never felt it favored one city entirely... Princeton does it's own thing
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. Yeah, i've been several times, never felt it favored one city entirely... Princeton does it's own thing
