Philadelphia vs. Minneapolis (metropolitan, states, metro, living)

[west336]

Originally Posted by Dub King

Subtract the ghetto from Philly and it's doing better than most of those 'white' cities out there... and that's what comments like yours are really getting at "look at how awesome and homogeneous we are!".

COL is another issue. I'd rather earn more and pay more to live in a great city than move out to the middle of nowhere so I can have a boring job in a boring city and freeze my arse off each winter.

It's comments like these that make most East Coasters just look foolish. Maybe it's the koolaid then, if not the glasses. Whatever it is, keep it in Philly -- your attitude sucks!

[west336]

Originally Posted by Drewcifer

There is a lot of east coast hubris on this thread, but most folks in Minneapolis probably don't care enough to argue with you guys.

I grew up out east but choose to live in Minneapolis because it is a cool city. It is the freak magnet of the prairie, there are a lot of interesting weirdos here. Philly on the other hand is more of an establishment type city, which in my mind is a knock against it.

I don't think there is a need to knock either city, really. Both are great! One thing that Philly has that MOST cities don't is that it's a good 200 years older/established. Give the rest of us that much time to grow and improve and see what can be done.

[west336]

Originally Posted by daboywonder2002

let me sum this up for yall. negatives of both cities.

minnesota negs
1. too isolated. cant take any weekend trips to major cities. nobody wants to drive to south or north dakota. you have to fly everywhere
2. cold weather
3. Limited african american population. personally i think thats because they dont wanna live here. they give the excuse. oh its too cold. oh its not chicago. its a shame too because i do like minnesota.
4. public transportation sucks in the suburbs. i shouldnt have to catch 3 buses to get from bloomingoton to edina. thats all i will say.

philly negs
1. city wage tax
2. high crime.
3 housing sucks. there's a reason people choose to buy houses in new jersey and delaware over philadelphia. philly is a city you go to party, have fun. but you dont lay your head here. POINT BLANK.

1. Isolated is all relative. I drive to Chicago for weekends because I am used to being in the car for 6 hours -- it's relaxing for me. Considering I do this more than the average person and I do it less than 5 times a year, I don't always see isolation as a major issue. To me, isolation is having to fly everywhere to see friends/family/anything -- and that is the West Coast because the mountains make it impossible to drive most of the time.

2. I don't like high heat/humidity just as much as I don't like uber-cold weather.....which is better? I'd probably choose Philly's moderate climate over Mpls but at least in Mpls you can enjoy winter outside (if you care to learn how).

3. The Twin Cities black population is a fraction of Philly's, so it's not an apples-to-apples comparison and never will be. That being said, its black population has grown quite a bit in the last 2 decades and isn't slowing down at all. It won't take long before it catches up to the rest of the Midwest, possibly. Who knows. It's got less to do with weather (believe me, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit, etc. are not weather paradises either) and more to do with heavy industrial jobs and low-education labor availability during the Great Migration.

4. Agreed. But most places don't build subways between two post-war suburbs nowadays.

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by daboywonder2002

i Just moved to minnesota from the philadelphia area. so i feel i am def qualified to answer this.

So you live in Minnesota? Are you close to Minneapolis?

[daboywonder2002]

Originally Posted by Kamms

So you live in Minnesota? Are you close to Minneapolis?

edina

[west336]

Originally Posted by daboywonder2002

edina

Aw c'mon! You're black and live in Edina and are judging Mpls metro by its black population??? No wonder you feel the way you do! I was born/raised in Mpls and moved to Edina much later, and I can tell you the difference is night and day!

[daboywonder2002]

Originally Posted by west336

1. Isolated is all relative. I drive to Chicago for weekends because I am used to being in the car for 6 hours -- it's relaxing for me. Considering I do this more than the average person and I do it less than 5 times a year, I don't always see isolation as a major issue. To me, isolation is having to fly everywhere to see friends/family/anything -- and that is the West Coast because the mountains make it impossible to drive most of the time.

2. I don't like high heat/humidity just as much as I don't like uber-cold weather.....which is better? I'd probably choose Philly's moderate climate over Mpls but at least in Mpls you can enjoy winter outside (if you care to learn how).

3. The Twin Cities black population is a fraction of Philly's, so it's not an apples-to-apples comparison and never will be. That being said, its black population has grown quite a bit in the last 2 decades and isn't slowing down at all. It won't take long before it catches up to the rest of the Midwest, possibly. Who knows. It's got less to do with weather (believe me, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit, etc. are not weather paradises either) and more to do with heavy industrial jobs and low-education labor availability during the Great Migration.

4. Agreed. But most places don't build subways between two post-war suburbs nowadays.

isolation is a major issue. think of where im coming from. i can drive or hop on a train to dc, baltimore, new york, jersey. east coast cities are all pretty close. im not thrilled about taking an 8 hour drive to chicago all the time. so minnesota is very isolated

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by daboywonder2002

isolation is a major issue. think of where im coming from. i can drive or hop on a train to dc, baltimore, new york, jersey. east coast cities are all pretty close. im not thrilled about taking an 8 hour drive to chicago all the time. so minnesota is very isolated

Exactly...not everyone is into driving 12+ hours on weekends to get to Chicago. The ride and Chicago gets old. Minneapolis is isolated. East coast cities are, like you said, close to each other plus the ocean beaches, mountains, the Chesapeake Bay etc. are all easily accessable.

[tvdxer]

1) Which city has the better weather? Philadelphia
2) Which city has the more friendly people? Minneapolis
3) Which city has better food and restaurants? Minneapolis (I love Ethiopian food)
4) Which city is a better sports town? Minneapolis
5) Which city has the arts scene? Minneapolis
6) Which city is more Liberal? Minneapolis
7) How would you compare the racial diversity of these two cities? Philadelphia has much more "traditional" racial diversity
8) Which city is cleaner? Minneapolis
9) Which city has the better air quality? Minneapolis
10) Which city has more crime? Philadelphia
11) Which city has the better Downtown? Philadelphia
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13) Which city has the better nightlife? Minneapolis
14) Which city has the prettier natural setting? Minneapolis
15) Which city has the better economy? Minneapolis
16) Which city has more potential for growth? Minneapolis
17) Which city is more educated? Minneapolis
18) Which city has the better and more affordable cost of living? Minneapolis

(Full disclosure: I've never been to Philadelphia)

[BlackOut]

Originally Posted by west336

Aw c'mon! You're black and live in Edina and are judging Mpls metro by its black population??? No wonder you feel the way you do! I was born/raised in Mpls and moved to Edina much later, and I can tell you the difference is night and day!

Haha. No kidding. As of the 2010 census, Edina's population was 41,535. It's black population was 1,688 (3.5%). As for Minneapolis, its total population was 382,578 and its black population was 77,889 (20.4%). St. Paul had a census population of 285,068 with a black population of 49,191 (17.3%).