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View Poll Results: #2 in the Midwest: Minneapolis-St. Paul or Detroit?
Minneapolis-St. Paul 158 56.83%
Detroit 89 32.01%
Other, be Specific 31 11.15%
Voters: 278. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-07-2014, 10:54 AM
 
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The Detroit metro area is not hemorraging people. The opposite is true.
From 2000 to 2010, the Detroit MSA lost 156,307 and Cleveland lost 70,903. Latest estimates have both metros losing population as well.

 
Old 01-07-2014, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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No offense, but when did Omaha, Indianapolis, and Columbus become major MSAs?
Of course Omaha isn't, and I acknowledged that originally. KC, Columbus and Indianapolis are all approx. 2 million+ people (and even larger CSAs). These are not small metros. However, the point was that, yes, someone clearly claimed Minneapolis to be the only thriving major city in the Midwest...
 
Old 01-07-2014, 11:00 AM
 
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Of course Omaha isn't, and I acknowledged that originally. KC, Columbus and Indianapolis are all approx. 2 million+ people (and even larger CSAs). These are not small metros. However, the point was that, yes, someone clearly claimed Minneapolis to be the only thriving major city in the Midwest...
Gotch ya.
 
Old 01-07-2014, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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Originally Posted by YIMBY View Post
From 2000 to 2010, the Detroit MSA lost 156,307 and Cleveland lost 70,903. Latest estimates have both metros losing population as well.
Actually... latest estimates have Metro Detroit gaining in population.

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Old 01-07-2014, 01:50 PM
 
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Actually... latest estimates have Metro Detroit gaining in population.

Michigan

Huh? It looks like it lost population from the date the Census was released to 2012.

 
Old 01-07-2014, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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From 2010 to 2012, it's a -0.074 decrease. Hardly a metro in freefall.

Plus if you infer that the 2011 to 2012 change is continuing, the decrease is easily matched and overtaken by an increase. By 2013, there will be an overall increase from 2010s numbers. Unfortunately, we'll have to wait until March for those numbers.
 
Old 01-07-2014, 02:45 PM
 
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Guess Columbus is not in the Midwest anymore?
Columbus is a small podunk town.
 
Old 01-07-2014, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Paris
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Thank you Drewcifer and YIMBY for proving the other posters correct...
 
Old 01-07-2014, 03:46 PM
 
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Hahahaha. It seems that people in Detroit could care less while everyone else is bent out of shape!
 
Old 01-07-2014, 04:06 PM
 
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Thank you Drewcifer and YIMBY for proving the other posters correct...
No problem. I think we clearly stated their city / metro isn't SECOND to Chicago, which this thread is about. I even provided data (see below), which no one else has. All it's been from you and others is complaining or trolling. I'm sorry you and others are all butt hurt over it. If you would like to actually add something to this thread, great. If you are here to b*tch about why Omaha hasn't been mentioned, then move on because it doesn't belong in this discussion. In other words, stick to the topic at hand.

City - Total / Rank Among 30 Largest Metro Areas:

Total Occupational Employment per MSA (2012)
Chicago – 3,640,660 / 3
Minneapolis – 1,749,870 / 9
St. Louis - 1,274,970 / 13
Detroit 1,072,160 / 20
Cleveland 994,380 / 25
Cincinnati 981,050 / 26
Kansas City 970,460 / 27

Labor Force Participation Rate per MSA (2011)
Minneapolis 72.4% / 1
Kansas City 71.4% 3
St. Louis 67.7% / 9
Cincinnati 66.2% 14
Cleveland 66.1% / 15
Chicago 65.6% / 17
Detroit 59.1% / 30

Percentage of Population with Bachelor’s Degree or Higher (2011)
Minneapolis – 38.5% / 4
Chicago – 34.2% / 10
Kansas City – 32.9% / 14
St. Louis – 30.7% / 18
Cincinnati – 29.6% / 20
Cleveland – 27.9% / 25
Detroit – 27.8% / 26

Percentage of Population with High School Diploma or Higher (2011)
Minneapolis – 92.8% / 1
Kansas City – 90.4%/ 4
St. Louis – 90.1% / 8
Cincinnati – 88.6% / 12
Cleveland – 88.6%/ 12
Detroit – 88.0% / 14
Chicago – 86.5% / 21

Most Literate Cities (2012)
Minneapolis – 3
St. Louis – 8
Cincinnati - 11
Kansas City – 12
Cleveland – 13
Chicago - 18
Detroit – 22

Patents 2007 – 2011
Chicago 12,784 / 6
Minneapolis 12,085 / 8
Detroit 9,919 / 9
Cincinnati 3,559 / 18
Cleveland 3,030 / 19
St. Louis 2,807 / 23
Kansas City 2,319 / 24

Academic Research & Development (2011)
Chicago $1,690.5 / 7
Minneapolis $857.5 / 14
St. Louis $832.2 / 15
Cleveland $487.5 / 19
Cincinnati $447.4 / 21
Kansas City $33.0 / 30
Detroit $288.1 / 25

Fortune 500 Companies (2013)
Chicago – 29
Minneapolis – 18
Detroit – 13
Cincinnati - 10
St. Louis – 9
Cleveland – 7
Kansas City - 3

Publicly-Held Companies (2013)
Chicago – 181 / 5
Minneapolis – 101 / 10
Cleveland – 44 / 20
Detroit – 46 / 17
St. Louis – 47 / 16
Kansas City – 36 / 21
Cincinnati – 32 / 25

S&P 500 Companies (2013)
Chicago – 30 / 2
Minneapolis – 14 / 9
Cincinnati – 7 / 14
Detroit – 6 / 17
St. Louis – 6 / 17
Cleveland – 5 / 20
Kansas City – 3 / 23

Global Fortune 500 Companies (2013)
Chicago – 9 / 2
Minneapolis – 6 / 5
Cincinnati – 3 / 11
Detroit – 2 / 14
St. Louis – 2 / 14
Kansas City – 1 / 17
Cleveland – 0

Venture Capital Investments (Millions), 2012
Chicago - $351 / 8
Minneapolis - $187 / 10
Detroit - $80 / 15
Cleveland - $75 / 17
Cincinnati - $32 / 22
Kansas City - $16 / 25
St. Louis - $15 / 26

Bank Concentration Index, 2012
Minneapolis – 3,271 / 2
Detroit – 1,441 / 10
Chicago – 832 / 23
St. Louis – 738 / 25
Cincinnati – 0
Cleveland – 0
Kansas City - 0

Exports (Billions), 2012
Detroit - $55.4 / 4
Chicago - $40.6 / 7
Minneapolis - $25.2 / 9
Cincinnati - $20.0 / 14
St. Louis - $14.6 / 17
Cleveland - $11.1 / 21
Kansas City - $7.9 / 24

Poverty Rate
Minneapolis – 11.0% / 3
St. Louis – 13.7% / 11
Kansas City – 13.4% / 9
Cincinnati – 14.3% /12
Chicago – 14.7% / 14
Cleveland – 16.0% / 19
Detroit – 18.0% / 29
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