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Old 09-10-2012, 01:42 PM
 
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Golden Triangle, West End, and Downtown DC are all different entites and are not included together. They operate separate from each other even though they are divided by a street basically.
I think calling the area around Foggy Bottom "downtown" is a bit of a stretch.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Wait, what are the borders of downtown DC? I guess I thought it was on the east side of the White House.

Also, MD I got to say this sentence makes absolutely no sense to me:

DC's downtown officially stops at 16th street to the west and Massachusetts Ave. to the north and Constitution Ave. to the south.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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That doesn't mean anything as a practical matter. When's the last time you've heard someone say, "I'm going down to the Golden Triangle?" For all practical intents and purposes, it's downtown.

That's my point. DC's downtown is WAY bigger than the borders show in a list or stats. They are counted as different places even though they are integrated better than any other cities multiple CBD's.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:48 PM
 
Location: The City
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So if you're heading west on Penn. Ave, M st or K st toward Gtwn you can't tell? Or heading north on Conn. Ave? Or east on NY Ave? Or north on 7th? Or up 16th? Or south on 3rd? Come on now! DC's restricted height might have something to do with that. LA's close in areas right outside of dt may not have 50 & 60 story towers right outside of drt but its certainly built up.
Mostly agree. For DC the impact is kind of the blessing and curse all at the same time

And would ask is no longer a continuation of DT

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=phila...100.37,,0,2.37

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=phila...,96.74,,0,9.26

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=phila...47.41,,0,-0.96

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=phila...180.3,,0,-4.81

DC does have a large continuous if not monotonous footprint though and is pretty vibrant
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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So if you're heading west on Penn. Ave, M st or K st toward Gtwn you can't tell? Or heading north on Conn. Ave? Or east on NY Ave? Or north on 7th? Or up 16th? Or south on 3rd? Come on now! DC's restricted height might have something to do with that. LA's close in areas right outside of dt may not have 50 & 60 story towers right outside of drt but its certainly built up.
This is not downtown DC even though it looks like it. I don't know many places that have such an abrupt stop to districts without any physical boundaries to speak of.

downtown DC - Google Maps
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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That's my point. DC's downtown is WAY bigger than the borders show in a list or stats. They are counted as different places even though they are integrated better than any other cities multiple CBD's.
There are not "multiple CBDs." Nobody thinks that outside of a few geeks in urban planning circles.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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There are not "multiple CBDs." Nobody thinks that outside of a few geeks in urban planning circles.

So you agree with me that downtown DC's footprint is only smaller than Manhattan in the U.S. We are saying the same thing. When the lists for downtown footprint have been posted on this site, it didn't include these area's FYI.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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So you agree with me that downtown DC's footprint is only smaller than Manhattan in the U.S. We are saying the same thing. When the lists for downtown footprint have been posted on this site, it didn't include these area's FYI.
I'm saying that DC only has one CBD: Downtown. The different names for different parts of the CBD (Gallery Place, West End, etc.) is analogous to the different names for different parts of the Midtown Manhattan CBD (Times Square, Diamond District, etc.). The fact nonetheless remains that there's only one CBD.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:54 PM
 
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This is not downtown DC even though it looks like it. I don't know many places that have such an abrupt stop to districts without any physical boundaries to speak of.

downtown DC - Google Maps

That is not unique to DC, the name "Downtown" is really meaningless outside of NYC.

An argument could be made that this isn't "downtown" Chicago:
Dearborn and kinzie chicago - Google Maps
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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I'm saying that DC only has one CBD: Downtown. The different names for different parts of the CBD (Gallery Place, West End, etc.) is analogous to the different names for different parts of the Midtown Manhattan CBD (Times Square, Diamond District, etc.). The fact nonetheless remains that there's only one CBD.
I agree, but for comparison's sake especially when people use statistics, West End and Golden Triangle are not counted for population, office space, etc. etc. They are seen as a different part of the city. They are counted the same way the SW federal District is counted. None of these will show up on any lists together as one entity. That's all I have been saying.
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