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True, except for those who know otherwise or anyone who follows celebrities that are outside the domain of TMZ.
Have Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, and Kim Kardashian (though they reside in NYC part time as well). I'll take Malcolm Gladwell, Paul Auster, and Lady Gaga.
I think it's incredibly sad that LA has chosen to forfeit so much of its high culture and actual cultural movers. We use to have Aldous Huxley, Ray Bradbury, Walt Disney and the Doors among others. LA can come back again as the area slowly forfeits its grasp on crap. I have high hopes for the city as a native son.
L.A. is at the the forefront for contemporary art and fashion right now, if it helps you feel better. Not to mention architecture--ask anyone who studied contemporary architecture where L.A. ranks. Frank Gehrey, anyone? But yeah, L.A. has a ton of "low brow" celebrities here. Most of the big ones. Easy to dismiss--if you never watch movies or TV shows.
L.A. is at the the forefront for contemporary art and fashion right now, if it helps you feel better. Not to mention architecture--ask anyone who studied contemporary architecture where L.A. ranks. Frank Gehrey, anyone? But yeah, L.A. has a ton of celebrities here. Most of the big ones.
Los Angeles is at the forefront, but alongside four or five other cities and NYC very obviously reigns in front for fashion, and used to for contemporary art (this is one of the areas where LA definitely shines). Frank Gehrey is everywhere, not just Los Angeles. He is a USC graduate, but his projects are all over the place.
LA has a lot of big celebrities, but with residences in NYC as well. Meanwhile, the unfortunately more niche celebrity powers who's calling is to NOT make a complete jackass of themselves is in NYC.
I don't disagree with LA being a large magnet of celebrities. I think you're missing the part where the celebrities often reside at least part time in NYC and that NYC has a much broader expanse of fields.
In technical fields, all that TED talk bull that people who are plugged in actually know or care about, Los Angeles has a distinct disadvantage where it trains a lot of people, but offers them little opportunity to stay. In journalism, writing, technology and critical thinking Los Angeles has decided to pass over them a long while ago. Did you know that Los Angeles was once a large locus for many of these things? Does a significant part of LA care? We've let go of these things and concentrated on the faint flashes in the pan to be quickly forgotten. It's part of what I dislike about LA--that even its recent history is forgotten by its residents and what's touted in place is so ephemeral that it's impossible to build off of to any great extent. LA could be, and to some extent far less than it could be, amazing. Many of its natural advantages has has been given away to a man-made wreck. Its early promise was forfeited. However, it's getting better to some extent.
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L.A. is at the the forefront for contemporary art and fashion right now, if it helps you feel better. Not to mention architecture--ask anyone who studied contemporary architecture where L.A. ranks. Frank Gehrey, anyone? But yeah, L.A. has a ton of celebrities here. Most of the big ones.
Ironically, Frank Gehrey has more notable buildings in NYC than LA.
And LA can't stack up to NYC in the least bit when it comes to fashion. Contemporary art, yes.
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Los Angeles is at the forefront, but alongside four or five other cities and NYC very obviously reigns in front for fashion, and used to for contemporary art (this is one of the areas where LA definitely shines). Frank Gehrey is everywhere, not just Los Angeles. He is a USC graduate, but his projects are all over the place.
LA has a lot of big celebrities, but with residences in NYC as well. Meanwhile, the unfortunately more niche celebrity powers who's calling is to NOT make a complete jackass of themselves is in NYC.
I don't disagree with LA being a large magnet of celebrities. I think you're missing the part where the celebrities often reside at least part time in NYC and that NYC has a much broader expanse of fields.
In technical fields, all that TED talk bull that people who are plugged in actually know or care about, Los Angeles has a distinct disadvantage where it trains a lot of people, but offers them little opportunity to stay. In journalism, writing, and critical thinking Los Angeles has decided to pass over them a long while ago. Did you know that Los Angeles was once a large locus for many of these things? Does a significant part of LA care? We've let go of these things and concentrated on the faint flashes in the pan to be quickly forgotten. It's part of what I dislike about LA--that even its recent history is forgotten by its residents and what's touted in place is so ephemeral that it's impossible to build off of to any great extent.
There are also a ton of celebrities who are based out of NYC despite it being far from the work in Hollywood.
True, except for those who know otherwise or anyone who follows celebrities that are outside the domain of TMZ.
Have Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, and Kim Kardashian (though they reside in NYC part time as well). I'll take Malcolm Gladwell, Paul Auster, and Lady Gaga.
I think it's incredibly sad that LA has chosen to forfeit so much of its high culture and actual cultural movers. We use to have Aldous Huxley, Ray Bradbury, Walt Disney and the Doors among others. LA can come back again as the area slowly forfeits its grasp on crap. I have high hopes for the city as a native son.
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Originally Posted by alexander8
Ironically, Frank Gehrey has more notable buildings in NYC than LA.
Fashion and LA don't belong in the same sentence.
Actually, they do, given all the LA based clothing companies I saw in Manhattan on my last visit. Sorry to thr ego bruise. As for Gehrey, his practice is in L.A. Modernism and L.A. go hand in hand. Again, sorry for the ego bruise. If it makes you feel better, you have a great subway system.
Actually, they do, given all the LA based clothing companies I saw in Manhattan on my last visit. Sorry to thr ego bruise. As for Gehrey, his practice is in L.A. Modernism and L.A. go hand in hand. Again, sorry for the ego bruise. If it makes you feel better, you have a great subway system.
But Gehrey seems to have more notable work in New York. Like his first skyscraper;
And besides American Apparel, could you please give me some other big clothing names?
LOL! This thread is HILARIOUS for its stupidity, a bunch of kids arguing about whether NYC or LA has more celebrities? Really boys?! Really?!
C-D has officially reached a new low if this is all you can contribute.
It is a silly argument and I don't even know why I indulged. Don't really give a crap about celebrities and I'm sure Los Angeles has more Hollywood celebrities than New York. After all, it is Hollywood. It's like arguing that LA has more finance moguls than New York. It just gets fuzzy since "celebrities" encompass more than actors..but then again, actors and musicians are the most popular form of celebrity. But then again, NYC now has the most popular NFL player and NFL is the biggest thing in America. LOL.
But the answer to this thread is New York. After (1) LA and (2) New York, I'm not sure there's a clear #3.
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True, except for those who know otherwise or anyone who follows celebrities that are outside the domain of TMZ.
Have Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, and Kim Kardashian (though they reside in NYC part time as well). I'll take Malcolm Gladwell, Paul Auster, and Lady Gaga.
I think it's incredibly sad that LA has chosen to forfeit so much of its high culture and actual cultural movers. We use to have Aldous Huxley, Ray Bradbury, Walt Disney and the Doors among others. LA can come back again as the area slowly forfeits its grasp on crap. I have high hopes for the city as a native son.
Using Hilton, Lohan, and Kardashian as examples is just lazy. There are celebrities in Hollywood that actually do work in movies.
And as far as I know, LA still has Ray Bradbury. I'll throw in Ed Ruscha and Elon Musk as suitable replacements for the other dead two. Deal?
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