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Old 12-17-2011, 08:50 AM
 
Location: The City
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Interestingly, from the streetviews the only one that compares as a "wall" is Baltimore.
What do you mean by wall?

Boston and Philly most definately have walls so to speak, if that is what you are getting at they both absolutely qualify

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Old 12-17-2011, 08:58 AM
 
Location: So California
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Maybe in your country, not in mine. I can't ever recall seeing steel gates on doors or windows or a house in my city. And I've lived here more than 20 years. The building I live in has ground floor apartments with sliding windows that open directly to the outside, and none of them have steel bars or anything similar.

Here are four of the most high-crime, low income neighbourhoods in Toronto. They have thousands of houses, duplexes, rowhomes, and ground floor apartments that open up directly to the sidewalk. Look around on Google Street View and try to find a single one with steel bars on the window. I've been to all these neighbourhoods many times, and have never seen steel bars or a gated entryway on any of the homes. And if you think I'm cherry-picking, look around any neighbourhood anywhere in Toronto (probably anywhere in Canada, though I'm not familiar with every city in Canada, some might have steel bars on house windows) and try to find windows with steel bars or gated entryways.

Edit: I was in Seattle 6 or 7 years ago and don't remember seeing steel bars on house windows. Granted, I didn't spend a lot of time walking down residential streets.
That sounds cute, but not what these guys say....

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Old 12-17-2011, 08:59 AM
 
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Maybe in your country, not in mine. I can't ever recall seeing steel gates on doors or windows or a house in my city. And I've lived here more than 20 years. The building I live in has ground floor apartments with sliding windows that open directly to the outside, and none of them have steel bars or anything similar.
Good for Canada. This condition is common in most major American cities. Even here in Manhattan ground level security bars are ubiquitous, particularly on older buildings... and even in relatively upscale neighborhoods.
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Old 12-17-2011, 09:07 AM
 
Location: The City
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Delancey St, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - Google Maps

1700 block of Spruce St in Philly with bars on the windows, basically the center of Rittenhouse Sq. This is common in many urban areas
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Old 12-17-2011, 09:14 AM
 
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Delancey St, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - Google Maps

1700 block of Spruce St in Philly with bars on the windows, basically the center of Rittenhouse Sq. This is common in many urban areas
It's because in areas like that often the entrance to the lower level is below grade, so the put gates to keep people from falling, well in Back Bay and Parts of New York anyway.
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Old 12-17-2011, 09:17 AM
 
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It's because in areas like that often the entrance to the lower level is below grade, so the put gates to keep people from falling, well in Back Bay and Parts of New York anyway.

Well the first floor windows are with bars, I know the girl that used to live in that apt and they were most definately bars.

The lower level on this particular street is mostly basement and heaters etc.
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Old 12-17-2011, 09:28 AM
 
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Philadelphia, PA - Google Maps

Is not a wall somehow, maybe because the trees block the view, these blocks just go on and on with same continuous development for miles.

I am confused, maybe the hill aspect creates a different perspective, not sure but NYC and Philly would have far more of this development than would SF in this regard.
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Old 12-17-2011, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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These recent comparisons between San Francisco and New York City are getting ridiculous. I feel like San Francisco is the new "Chicago" in this instance.

Yes, both are dense cities, but so are Baltimore, DC, Boston, Philly, and Chicago.

I can tell you with great confidence that the only real city that can compare to NYC is .... well, NYC. NOT SF. Sorry.

A little boulevard of two story row-homes that you show from Google Maps is not proof that SF feels like Manhattan.... People will easily show up other streets from other cities that look the same way (as people already are.... theory disproven).

I love San Francisco. But please. There is not a single spot in the city where I feel like I'm in New York. Not one.

And that's not an insult either.
Lets make this perfectly clear. San Francisco doesn't want to be, look or act like New York in any way. San Francisco has its own, beauty, charm, character and architecture.
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Old 12-17-2011, 11:14 AM
 
Location: So California
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Lets make this perfectly clear. San Francisco doesn't want to be, look or act like New York in any way. San Francisco has its own, beauty, charm, character and architecture.

Thats right. I dont think that was in any way the point of this thread.
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Old 12-17-2011, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Thats right. I dont think that was in any way the point of this thread.
It wasn't and I don't think anybody said it was. I don't understand that little rant from Nafster there. Nobody said SF wanted to be like NYC.
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