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And quite honestly anyone who has actually done business in a Boston, DC, DFW, Houston, Philly or SF and Seattle and considers Seattle on the same level is truly smoking some stuff from Venice Beach in LA...
One tier has Philly, Atlanta, Detroit, Miami, Boston, Houston, Dallas, DC, SF. Another tier has Denver, San Diego, Minneapolis.
Which tier does Seattle belong in, latter or former? Use size, economy, influence, etc
There was a famous city data thread ) a while back that had several rankings, A few cities were missing in certain rankings, but we pretty much knew were they going to rank if they were ranked. But there was a little argument over Philly, Atlanta, Detroit, Miami, Boston, Houston, Dallas, DC, SF orderly in importance. With saying that nothing by those rankings or did any poster argue or nominated that Seattle belongs in that group. Seattle, Denver, and Minneapolis in some areas did make top 10, but you have to look at the overall picture.
I would say Seattle is below the Philly, Atlanta, Miami, Boston, Houston, Dallas, DC, SF tier. And Seattle is on the same tier as Denver, San Diego, Minneapolis And I would add Phoenix, St Louis, Baltimore, Tampa, and Pittsburgh. and put Detroit on Seattle tier also.
There was a famous city data thread ) a while back that had several rankings, A few cities were missing in certain rankings, but we pretty much knew were they going to rank if they were ranked. But there was a little argument over Philly, Atlanta, Detroit, Miami, Boston, Houston, Dallas, DC, SF orderly in importance. With saying that nothing by those rankings or did any poster argue or nominated that Seattle belongs in that group. Seattle, Denver, and Minneapolis in some areas did make top 10, but you have to look at the overall picture.
I would say Seattle is below the Philly, Atlanta, Miami, Boston, Houston, Dallas, DC, SF tier. And Seattle is on the same tier as Denver, San Diego, Minneapolis And I would add Phoenix, St Louis, Baltimore, Tampa, and Pittsburgh. and put Detroit on Seattle tier also.
Actually Chiatldal we rarely agree but on this I do Seattle is at best number 12 in the US and to me IMHO definately still a level below the next crew
Though econimically it is quickly catching Atl, Miami, and Detroit
Fair but let me put a PA region in comparison; the 4.6 million in the PA portion of the Philly MSA have a higher income and GDP per capita relative to Seatttle and more F500 cos including top 500 not to mention home to 7 US HQ of F500 corps HQ'd outside the US and the home to 3 cos that not privately owned would be F250 US corps
Seatttle is up and coming but not yet playing in the next tier on many accounts
Slyman hates Philly yet believe could not argue the economic engine of Philly and the next tier relative to Seatttle which to me I agree is an up and comer yet the next 30 yeasr will decide whether it plays in this level
It is 50% below the economic output of the next tier, EXTREMELY significant to make such a claim
Take a place like Philly add in the GDP from the next 30 miles and Seattle play 100% below...
Kidphilly, your Philadelphia region is bigger and of course has a bigger GDP but the Puget Sound region has a higher per capita income, lower unemployment rate, higher educated population, much lower percentage of people living below the poverty level. And more people continue to move to the Puget Sound region than the Philadelphia region.....so there!:-)
Actually Chiatldal we rarely agree but on this I do Seattle is at best number 12 in the US and to me IMHO definately still a level below the next crew
Though econimically it is quickly catching Atl, Miami, and Detroit
But it still isn't bigger, and economics is a big part of it, but still it isn't everything. That's why I posted something showing importance in different ways. You have to look at other things, like diversity, amenities and yes even population, and etc. If you view Atl and Miami at the lower end of the tire with Philly, Boston, Houston, Dallas, and DC that's fine. ATL and Miami are still in that tire and those cities are ATL and MIA peers.
Miami may under performs in economics but it's size, and it's international media image. make Miami on another tire from Seattle alone. Atlanta may under performs economically to it's peers, but it's size, as well as being the Primate city of the deep south, which is significantly more populated than the northwest. Atlanta influence put Atlanta on another tire from Seattle.
Every city got it's strengths and weaknesses, that's why I said you have to look at the whole picture, For instance Seattle and Denver is in the same range as Philly and Dallas by diplomatic missions.
DC admitted
San Francisco (40)
Houston (37
Miami (35)
Atlanta (24)
Boston (23)
Detroit (7)
Philadelphia (6)
Denver (6)
Phoenix (5)
Dallas (4)
San Diego (3)
But that doesn't mean much when looking at everything across the abroad. This is just a weak point for Philly and Dallas, They are overall a tire up from Seattle, Phoenix and Denver.
Why on earth is DFW and Miami not on the same level as Atlanta? Its all dumb but if anything I would put both of those regions above Atlanta.
DFW is certainly above Atlanta, but no way is Miami. Not even close.
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) a while back that had several rankings, A few cities were missing in certain rankings, but we pretty much knew were they going to rank if they were ranked. But there was a little argument over Philly, Atlanta, Detroit, Miami, Boston, Houston, Dallas, DC, SF orderly in importance. With saying that nothing by those rankings or did any poster argue or nominated that Seattle belongs in that group. Seattle, Denver, and Minneapolis in some areas did make top 10, but you have to look at the overall picture. 
