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Detroit, Miami, and DFW aren't even on the same level as Atlanta, Philly, Houston, SF, DC, or Boston, if anything they're a notch below. That being said I would place Seattle on about the same level as Detroit, Miami, and DFW. A notch above Denver, Minneapolis, and San Diego, but a notch below major cities like Houston, DC, Philly, Boston, and Atlanta.
Seattle is above San Diego, Denver, Minneapolis, Miami, and Detroit
Same level as Boston, Houston, Atlanta and Dallas
Below Philly, DC and San Francisco
Detroit, Miami, and DFW aren't even on the same level as Atlanta, Philly, Houston, SF, DC, or Boston, if anything they're a notch below. That being said I would place Seattle on about the same level as Detroit, Miami, and DFW. A notch above Denver, Minneapolis, and San Diego, but a notch below major cities like Houston, DC, Philly, Boston, and Atlanta.
Why on earth is DFW and Miami not on the same level as Atlanta? Its all dumb but if anything I would put both of those regions above Atlanta.
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I think it currently groups closer to MSP, DEN and SDG, but is the closest (and is the quickest to reach) the next echelon in the next 10 years or so. I see Seattle as this decade's Atlanta, Dallas or Houston (just on a slightly lesser scale).
It's hard to place Seattle. I guess I would break it down in a simple way like this: Population, Fortune 500, TV Market Size, Airport Traffic... San Diego, Minneapolis and Denver in Blue. Seattle in Red.
Size (metro):
Dallas: 6.4 million
Philly: 6 million
Houston: 6 million
Miami: 5.6 million
DC: 5.6 million
Atlanta: 5.3 million
Boston: 4.6 million
SF: 4.4 million
Detroit: 4.3 million
Seattle: 3.4 million
Minneapolis: 3.4 million
San Diego: 3.1 million
Denver: 2.6 million
It's hard to place Seattle. I guess I would break it down in a simple way like this: Population, Fortune 500, TV Market Size, Airport Traffic... San Diego, Minneapolis and Denver in Blue. Seattle in Red.
Size (metro):
Dallas: 6.4 million
Philly: 6 million
Houston: 6 million
Miami: 5.6 million
DC: 5.6 million
Atlanta: 5.3 million
Boston: 4.6 million
SF: 4.4 million
Detroit: 4.3 million
Seattle: 3.4 million
Minneapolis: 3.4 million
San Diego: 3.1 million
Denver: 2.6 million
A tier with DC, Boston, Houston, SF, Philly, Dallas, Atlanta. Another tier with Miami, Detroit, Seattle, Minneapolis. A third tier for San Diego and Denver.
Must ask however, why would you place Atlanta with Seattle?
If including economy one would have to put Atlanta in that next tier below group
I am no fan of San Diego, one of my least favorite cities but even I cannot deny its importance. San Diego is overlooked on importance because unlike Minneapolis, Denver, or Seattle its not the biggest in its region nor the most important, not even second in its state, maybe not even third depending how one were to rank Sacramento. However if San Diego were located in any other state/42 other states other than CA, TX, NY, FL, IL, PA, GA, and maybe WA it would be the clear largest and most important city in that state/region.
San Diego's economy while slightly smaller competes more closely with Denver, Minneapolis, Phoenix, and Seattle than any city below San Diego. San Diego is also one of the 20 largest metros just as Minneapolis, Phoenix, Denver, and Seattle are all in the 3/4 million limit.
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SD pales incoparison to Philadelphia, which I know you hate but explain which metric SD compare remotely besides weather to Philadelphia
Even for GA =, Atlanta and Miami are by far the laggards economically but explain how SD would trump either a Atlanta ot Miami
BTWI think La Jolla is just about perfect but please explain this
Seattle is a regional, national, and international hub. It is home to 8 Fortune-500 companies and 3 of them are in the top 100. It is economically sound because of its diverse economy with a greater opportunity for high-level wages. Size and population are not good comparisons to use because there are bigger cities than Seattle that have 1-sided unstable economies and are not world-class cities by any stretch. I like San Diego but it is not a top tier city- too over shadowed by Los Angeles.
Fair but let me put a PA region in comparison; the 4.6 million in the PA portion of the Philly MSA have a higher income and GDP per capita relative to Seatttle and more F500 cos including top 500 not to mention home to 7 US HQ of F500 corps HQ'd outside the US and the home to 3 cos that not privately owned would be F250 US corps
Seatttle is up and coming but not yet playing in the next tier on many accounts
Slyman hates Philly yet believe could not argue the economic engine of Philly and the next tier relative to Seatttle which to me I agree is an up and comer yet the next 30 yeasr will decide whether it plays in this level
It is 50% below the economic output of the next tier, EXTREMELY significant to make such a claim
Take a place like Philly add in the GDP from the next 30 miles and Seattle play 100% below...
Detroit, Miami, and DFW aren't even on the same level as Atlanta, Philly, Houston, SF, DC, or Boston, if anything they're a notch below. That being said I would place Seattle on about the same level as Detroit, Miami, and DFW. A notch above Denver, Minneapolis, and San Diego, but a notch below major cities like Houston, DC, Philly, Boston, and Atlanta.
DFW plays with Houston and Philly Not Seattle by any economic output metric grow your economy by 50% then discuss per capita metrics
And this is no slight to Seattle but the scale is paltry compared to DFW; your statement is vastly ill nformed
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to place Seattle. I guess I would break it down in a simple way like this: Population, Fortune 500, TV Market Size, Airport Traffic... San Diego, Minneapolis and Denver in Blue. Seattle in Red.
