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Old 04-19-2013, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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2000 stats but too lazy to make new ones with 2010 data:

Top 20 Largest Central Business Districts by Employment Population:
01. New York City: 1,736,900
02. Chicago: 541,500
03. Washington DC: 382,400
04. Bay Area: 305,600
05. Boston: 257,000
06. Philadelphia: 220,100
07. Houston: 178,100
08. Seattle: 153,400
09. Los Angeles: 143,700
10. Atlanta: 129,800
11. Denver: 126,000
12. Minneapolis Plus Saint Paul: 105,400
13. Cleveland: 100,300
14. Baltimore: 98,500
15. Miami: 98,000
16. Pittsburgh: 95,600
17. Columbus: 88,800
18. Austin: 86,000
19. New Orleans: 81,400
20. Dallas plus Downtown Fort Worth: 79,900

Top 20 Largest Central Business Districts by Land Area:
01. New York City: 7.82 Square Miles
02. Chicago: 3.36 Square Miles
03. Miami: 2.91 Square Miles
04. Columbus: 2.47 Square Miles
05. Bay Area: 2.34 Square Miles
06. Washington DC: 2.30 Square Miles
07. Atlanta: 2.17 Square Miles
08. Philadelphia: 1.71 Square Miles
09. Austin: 1.59 Square Miles
10. Cleveland: 1.54 Square Miles
11. Houston: 1.53 Square Miles (Tie with Denver)
12. Denver: 1.53 Square Miles (Tie with Houston)
13. Seattle: 1.48 Square Miles
14. Los Angeles: 1.25 Square Miles
15. Boston: 1.23 Square Miles
16. Baltimore: 1.09 Square Miles
17. New Orleans: 1.06 Square Miles
18. Minneapolis plus Saint Paul: 0.72 Square Miles
19. Dallas-Fort Worth: 0.67 Square Miles
20. Pittsburgh: 0.66 Square Miles

 
Old 04-19-2013, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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By Office Space:

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Originally Posted by HtownLove View Post
According to Grubb Ellis this is the top:

1. Midtown Manhattan- 213,818,31
2. CBD Chicago- 130,317,15
3. CBD DC- 107,337,31
4. DT Manhattan- 76,000,76
5. MT S Manhattan- 74,577,47
6. CBD Boston- 64,407,32
7. CBD SF- 45,176,67
8. CBD Philadelphia- 44,261,375
9. CBD Houston- 43,214,941
10. CBD LA- 32,159,55
11. Minneapolis- 28,299,243 (The report lists St P separately and then combines them in the end as one district)
12. Pittsburgh- 27,841,801 (they included fringe areas)
13. CBD Dallas- 26,890,00 (The report lists FW separately and then combines them in the end as one district)
14. Denver- 26,493,570
15. Cleveland- 21,969,702
16. Portland- 19,779,070
17. CBD Atlanta- 17,288,368
18. Phoenix- 15,779,714
19. Indianapolis- 14,709,070
20. Detroit- 13,187,372
21. Miami- 13,133,897
22. Milwaukee- 12,439,588
23. Columbus- 12,289,442
24. Cincinnati- 11,919,525
25. Oakland CBD 11,737,986
26. San Diego- 11,393,918
27. St Paul- 10,059,518
28. Fort Worth- 9,956,82
29. Austin- 8,490,93
30. San Jose- 8,355,347

Edit: Forgot Seattle but too lazy to add it in:


Denny Regrade 8,458,978
Financial District 23,302,266
Lake Union 5,670,077 747,235
Pioneer Square 4,790,030
Queen Anne 3,049,376
 
Old 04-19-2013, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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This has been discussed extensively.

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Old 04-19-2013, 06:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by HtownLove View Post
2000 stats but too lazy to make new ones with 2010 data:

Top 20 Largest Central Business Districts by Employment Population:
01. New York City: 1,736,900
02. Chicago: 541,500
03. Washington DC: 382,400
04. Bay Area: 305,600
05. Boston: 257,000
06. Philadelphia: 220,100
07. Houston: 178,100
08. Seattle: 153,400
09. Los Angeles: 143,700
10. Atlanta: 129,800
11. Denver: 126,000
12. Minneapolis Plus Saint Paul: 105,400
13. Cleveland: 100,300
14. Baltimore: 98,500
15. Miami: 98,000
16. Pittsburgh: 95,600
17. Columbus: 88,800
18. Austin: 86,000
19. New Orleans: 81,400
20. Dallas plus Downtown Fort Worth: 79,900

Top 20 Largest Central Business Districts by Land Area:
01. New York City: 7.82 Square Miles
02. Chicago: 3.36 Square Miles
03. Miami: 2.91 Square Miles
04. Columbus: 2.47 Square Miles
05. Bay Area: 2.34 Square Miles
06. Washington DC: 2.30 Square Miles
07. Atlanta: 2.17 Square Miles
08. Philadelphia: 1.71 Square Miles
09. Austin: 1.59 Square Miles
10. Cleveland: 1.54 Square Miles
11. Houston: 1.53 Square Miles (Tie with Denver)
12. Denver: 1.53 Square Miles (Tie with Houston)
13. Seattle: 1.48 Square Miles
14. Los Angeles: 1.25 Square Miles
15. Boston: 1.23 Square Miles
16. Baltimore: 1.09 Square Miles
17. New Orleans: 1.06 Square Miles
18. Minneapolis plus Saint Paul: 0.72 Square Miles
19. Dallas-Fort Worth: 0.67 Square Miles
20. Pittsburgh: 0.66 Square Miles
The problem isn't all of these things HtownLove, the problem with Houston is the lack of pedestrians.

For example, some pretty Houston pictures but what's missing? Pedestrians, because they're all underground in the tunnels or something.

(I have authorization from the Flikr member to post these, I asked him via Flikr, he said it was cool)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8178/7...42f1422b_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8453/7...55b169e3_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8446/7...a1fee816_b.jpg

Not a downtown thing but I like this picture from his album

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8440/7...99ab247b_b.jpg
 
Old 04-19-2013, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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The problem isn't all of these things HtownLove, the problem with Houston is the lack of pedestrians.
The OP gave a list of criteria and apart from one or two of them, DT Houston does pretty well on them. If memory serves me right, OP listed buildings, office space, downtown area, etc etc. Seattle may have a lot more pedestrians than Houston but that alone does not put it three tiers above Houston (esp considering the OP's criteria). Putting Austin and Dallas in tiers above Houston is just as ridiculous as DT Houston is more than 5 times as large as DT Austin and twice as large as DT D.
 
Old 04-19-2013, 07:06 PM
 
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The OP gave a list of criteria and apart from one or two of them, DT Houston does pretty well on them. If memory serves me right, OP listed buildings, office space, downtown area, etc etc. Seattle may have a lot more pedestrians than Houston but that alone does not put it three tiers above Houston (esp considering the OP's criteria). Putting Austin and Dallas in tiers above Houston is just as ridiculous as DT Houston is more than 5 times as large as DT Austin and twice as large as DT D.
Fair enough.
 
Old 04-19-2013, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Originally Posted by HtownLove View Post
2000 stats but too lazy to make new ones with 2010 data:

Top 20 Largest Central Business Districts by Employment Population:
01. New York City: 1,736,900
02. Chicago: 541,500
03. Washington DC: 382,400
04. Bay Area: 305,600
05. Boston: 257,000
06. Philadelphia: 220,100
07. Houston: 178,100
08. Seattle: 153,400
09. Los Angeles: 143,700
10. Atlanta: 129,800
11. Denver: 126,000
12. Minneapolis Plus Saint Paul: 105,400
13. Cleveland: 100,300
14. Baltimore: 98,500
15. Miami: 98,000
16. Pittsburgh: 95,600
17. Columbus: 88,800
18. Austin: 86,000
19. New Orleans: 81,400
20. Dallas plus Downtown Fort Worth: 79,900

Top 20 Largest Central Business Districts by Land Area:
01. New York City: 7.82 Square Miles
02. Chicago: 3.36 Square Miles
03. Miami: 2.91 Square Miles
04. Columbus: 2.47 Square Miles
05. Bay Area: 2.34 Square Miles
06. Washington DC: 2.30 Square Miles
07. Atlanta: 2.17 Square Miles
08. Philadelphia: 1.71 Square Miles
09. Austin: 1.59 Square Miles
10. Cleveland: 1.54 Square Miles
11. Houston: 1.53 Square Miles (Tie with Denver)
12. Denver: 1.53 Square Miles (Tie with Houston)
13. Seattle: 1.48 Square Miles
14. Los Angeles: 1.25 Square Miles
15. Boston: 1.23 Square Miles
16. Baltimore: 1.09 Square Miles
17. New Orleans: 1.06 Square Miles
18. Minneapolis plus Saint Paul: 0.72 Square Miles
19. Dallas-Fort Worth: 0.67 Square Miles
20. Pittsburgh: 0.66 Square Miles
Downtown LA is usually considered to be larger than that figure. Wikipedia has 5.3 square miles, though that counts the fairly large Warehouse District, I'd say it is closer to 2.5 or 3 square miles.
 
Old 04-19-2013, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Originally Posted by Code Lyoko View Post
The problem isn't all of these things HtownLove, the problem with Houston is the lack of pedestrians.

For example, some pretty Houston pictures but what's missing? Pedestrians, because they're all underground in the tunnels or something.

(I have authorization from the Flikr member to post these, I asked him via Flikr, he said it was cool)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8178/7...42f1422b_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8453/7...55b169e3_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8446/7...a1fee816_b.jpg

Not a downtown thing but I like this picture from his album

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8440/7...99ab247b_b.jpg
Excellent, Excellent pics.

Houston is very 'broad shouldered', clearly the 3rd biggest skyline.
 
Old 04-19-2013, 08:23 PM
 
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Excellent, Excellent pics.

Houston is very 'broad shouldered', clearly the 3rd biggest skyline.
The last one sort of reminded me of the Portrait Ladies thing from San Francisco, without the elevation of course and southern architecture.

In terms of architecture, I do like Uptown Houston it's where it's sort of an Atlanta meets Miami, from stucco Spanish style condo towers to gleaming 21st century style condo towers (and office buildings), and then it's very own Houston style. Love that area, very cool, especially at night when people are revving their cars for fast races up and down Post Oak. Most times, beautifully exotic cars.

My favorite thing about Houston from a car owners perspective is how unnaturally helpful it is, my car thanks the city as do I. Driving into Uptown from 59 from Downtown and passing Texas Medical Center on the left and Greenway Plaza at the right at night and seeing the beacon rotating light at the top of the Transco Tower infront (Uptown), which in itself looks like a as you call it "broad shoulder" caper in the midst of darkness and seeing it's expanse on a misty night is so beautiful, in my opinion.
 
Old 04-19-2013, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Originally Posted by Code Lyoko View Post
The last one sort of reminded me of the Portrait Ladies thing from San Francisco, without the elevation of course and southern architecture.

In terms of architecture, I do like Uptown Houston it's where it's sort of an Atlanta meets Miami, from stucco Spanish style condo towers to gleaming 21st century style condo towers (and office buildings), and then it's very own Houston style. Love that area, very cool, especially at night when people are revving their cars for fast races up and down Post Oak. Most times, beautifully exotic cars.

My favorite thing about Houston from a car owners perspective is how unnaturally helpful it is, my car thanks the city as do I. Driving into Uptown from 59 from Downtown and passing Texas Medical Center on the left and Greenway Plaza at the right at night and seeing the beacon rotating light at the top of the Transco Tower infront (Uptown), which in itself looks like a as you call it "broad shoulder" caper in the midst of darkness and seeing it's expanse on a misty night is so beautiful, in my opinion.
I have to do that drive next time Im there.
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