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Originally Posted by Joakim3 View Post
If we are "tiering" them
Tier 1++
NYC
Tier 1+
Chicago
DC
Not in particular order from here on out
Tier 1
SF
Philly
Boston
Seattle
LA
Tier 2
Atlanta
Miami
Dallas
Houston
Tier 2b
Baltimore
Denver
Minneapolis/St. Paul
Pittsburgh
Detroit
Tier 3
San Diego
Charlotte
Austin
Nashville
St. Louis
Portland
etc.. /QUOTE
Based on the above^, I think the biggest Tiers that need separating are the Tier 2a's and 2b's from the Tier 3s, and even below. There are a lot of cities with pretty busy downtowns and districts that are much smaller population-wise. Off top of my head, Jersey City, for example....
Just cant agree with that Tier 2 A list. I think the downtown's in tier 2b and tier 3 are better.....
Aside from Atlanta (Midtown is technically downtown, isn't it?), I agree.
If you are just talking about "Downtown" Atlanta than it doesn't belong in tier 2. If you are talking about Midtown than yes Atlanta would be in tier 2. However, the thread is specific to downtown's, not the entire cores or adjacent cbds....
If you are just talking about "Downtown" Atlanta than it doesn't belong in tier 2. If you are talking about Midtown than yes Atlanta would be in tier 2. However, the thread is specific to downtown's, not the entire cores or adjacent cbds....
Seriously... if that were the case you could add Arlington to DC and Oakland to SF. Both are just a bridge away and as close to downtown DC/SF as Midtown is to Dtown Atl.
Seriously... if that were the case you could add Arlington to DC and Oakland to SF. Both are just a bridge away and as close to downtown DC/SF as Midtown is to Dtown Atl.
Downtown and Midtown function as one, whereas Arlington and "Downtown DC" and [especially] Oakland/SF function as separate entities, which makes sense considering they are completely different cities with different governments. Is the Crown Plaza Midtown downtown or midtown? Both? Let's compare canoes and jet-skis while we're at it.
If you are just talking about "Downtown" Atlanta than it doesn't belong in tier 2. If you are talking about Midtown than yes Atlanta would be in tier 2. However, the thread is specific to downtown's, not the entire cores or adjacent cbds....
The issue is each city measures and defines their downtowns different. If Atlanta can’t use Midtown then we shouldn’t allow NYC to use Midtown either in which case Chicago would stomp this thread just off size alone.
To the average person or first time visiter, Midtown/Downtown Atlanta is going to feel, look and does function like one unified “CBD” as would Lower Manhattan & Midtown
DC is a pain because it lacks a physically distinguishable core. To an average person, anything a within a mile of the Mall is assumed to be downtown and functions as such
The issue is each city measures and defines their downtowns different. If Atlanta can’t use Midtown then we shouldn’t allow NYC to use Midtown either in which case Chicago would stomp this thread just off size alone.
To the average person or first time visiter, Midtown/Downtown Atlanta is going to feel, look and does function like one unified “CBD” as would Lower Manhattan & Midtown
DC is a pain because it lacks a physically distinguishable core. To an average person, anything a within a mile of the Mall is assumed to be downtown and functions as such
Downtown and Midtown function as one, whereas Arlington and "Downtown DC" and [especially] Oakland/SF function as separate entities, which makes sense considering they are completely different cities with different governments. Is the Crown Plaza Midtown downtown or midtown? Both? Let's compare canoes and jet-skis while we're at it.
But distance wise, theyre all about the same. Why would Atlanta get to add Midtown while other cities cant include large business districts just as close by, not taking into consideration they may be separate cities etc. Midtown=/=Dtown. I lived in Midtown, it functions just as seperately from Dtown as Arlington and Downtown DC does. Emory and 75 does a good job at physically seperating the two.
But distance wise, theyre all about the same. Why would Atlanta get to add Midtown while other cities cant include large business districts just as close by, not taking into consideration they may be separate cities etc.
SF to Oakland is 12 miles. Midtown to Downtown is 2 miles
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