Decent/Middle Class Black neighborhoods and areas in cities known for high crime (crime rate, people)

[LongIslandPerson]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

This may be the updated version: Mapping the 2010 U.S. Census - NYTimes.com

I think your right

But I prefer to use the '05-'09 since you have access to a lot more information like income data, avg. education data and other things

[ckhthankgod]

In Buffalo, perhaps parts of Schiller Park would fit: //www.city-data.com/neighborhoo...uffalo-NY.html

Grider: //www.city-data.com/neighborhoo...uffalo-NY.html

Hamlin Park: //www.city-data.com/neighborhoo...uffalo-NY.html
Buffalo's Historic Neighborhoods: Hamlin Park

In Rochester, the southern half of the 19th Ward: 19th Ward Community Association

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by LongIslandPerson

I think your right

But I prefer to use the '05-'09 since you have access to a lot more information like income data, avg. education data and other things

I agree, but the 2010 racial demographics are actually correct in terms of percentages.

[boreatwork]

Originally Posted by LongIslandPerson

Detroit;
+ Palmer Woods
palmer woods, detroit, mi - Google Maps (you can move around these pictures and go up and down the street, just to let you know)

Philadelphia area;
+ Willingboro, NJ;
willingboro, nj - Google Maps

St. Louis:
+ The northern suburbs of St. Louis are about 50/50 Black and White with Blacks holding the slight majority;
st. louis, mo - Google Maps

New Orleans area:
+ This unincorporated area outside of Timberlane, LA is predominately black[43%] with an median household income of around 84k (which is very high for New Orleans);
timberlane, la - Google Maps

As for Baltimore MD, Prince Georges County MD should be applicable.

Here's a map that shows median household income and racial demographics of every neighborhood in the country. I got a lot of info from here;
Mapping America ? Census Bureau 2005-9 American Community Survey - NYTimes.com

Prince Georges County isn't applicable to Baltimore. Alot of Baltimore folks never been to or know anything about Pg county. For Baltimore id say Owings mills, randallstown, or around liberty rd. Don't know about the city though.

[Duderino]

Here are a few notable areas in Philadelphia that have been historically known as enclaves for the middle-class African-Americans:

- West Mt. Airy (approx. 50% AA, Median Household Income: $66,318)
- Overbrook Farms (approx. 60% AA, Median Household Income: $45,319)
- Cheltenham Township (a suburb right outside of the city) (approx. 25% AA, Median Household Income: $78,034)

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by Duderino

Here are a few notable areas in Philadelphia that have been historically known as enclaves for the middle-class African-Americans:

- West Mt. Airy (approx. 50% AA, Median Household Income: $66,318)
- Overbrook Farms (approx. 60% AA, Median Household Income: $45,319)
- Cheltenham Township (a suburb right outside of the city) (approx. 25% AA, Median Household Income: $78,034)

What about Wynnewood?

[checkmatechamp13]

Originally Posted by LongIslandPerson

I think your right

But I prefer to use the '05-'09 since you have access to a lot more information like income data, avg. education data and other things

Just so you know, those are just estimates. For the most part, they're accurate, but in some cases, they're way off. For instance, in northwestern Camden, there's a tract with a median income of $55,000, when all of the other tracts surrounding it are around $20,000.

I think city-data extrapolated the data it got from the 2000 census (which sampled the income of everybody), and their figure was $14,000, which seems more accurate, especially considering what you see on Google StreetView in the area: //www.city-data.com/neighborhoo...Camden-NJ.html

For some reason, I thought the discussion was only about areas within the city limits, but in any case, for Philadelphia, you can add Fern Rock to the list as a middle class (maybe more towards lower middle class) Black area within the city limits. The median income is right around the citywide average: //www.city-data.com/neighborhoo...elphia-PA.html

[LongIslandPerson]

Originally Posted by checkmatechamp13

Just so you know, those are just estimates. For the most part, they're accurate, but in some cases, they're way off. For instance, in northwestern Camden, there's a tract with a median income of $55,000, when all of the other tracts surrounding it are around $20,000.

I think city-data extrapolated the data it got from the 2000 census (which sampled the income of everybody), and their figure was $14,000, which seems more accurate, especially considering what you see on Google StreetView in the area: //www.city-data.com/neighborhoo...Camden-NJ.html

For some reason, I thought the discussion was only about areas within the city limits, but in any case, for Philadelphia, you can add Fern Rock to the list as a middle class (maybe more towards lower middle class) Black area within the city limits. The median income is right around the citywide average: //www.city-data.com/neighborhoo...elphia-PA.html

Wow, 35k is considered Middle Class in Philadelphia!? (in reference to your last link)

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by LongIslandPerson

Wow, 35k is considered Middle Class in Philadelphia!? (in reference to your last link)

It does have a low cost of living for a city of its size.

[LongIslandPerson]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

It does have a low cost of living for a city of its size.

lucky them.

If you live in a Philly suburb and then buy a Prius and work in NYC then you would have it made!!