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Again, Denver has been well over 3 million for many years! Geesh! Was it ever pointed out if the op meant MSA or CSMA? Either way, Denver is one of the fastest growing metros in the US for the last decade and is not slowing down!
Again, Denver has been well over 3 million for many years! Geesh! Was it ever pointed out if the op meant MSA or CSMA? Either way, Denver is one of the fastest growing metros in the US for the last decade and is not slowing down!
Which will be the next metro areas to join the "3 million club"? Obvious contenders include Tampa Bay (currently at 2,860,379), St. Louis (2,812,896), and Baltimore (2,710,489). It's important to note that each has a different rate of population growth, which will certainly affect the outcome. Then let's not forget those slightly smaller MSAs with some rather robust rates of population growth: Denver, Portland, Sacramento, San Antonio, Orlando. It's entirely possible that any of these metros could eventually catch up with, or surpass, those ranked above them.
So like everyone else has already said Denver still hasn't hit the 3 mil mark.
Denver and Salt Lake City both feel much larger than just their MSAs because the surrounding MSAs all revolve around them like planets around a star, emphasized even more by the fact that their greater agglomerations are isolated once you leave their areas of influence.
Much like LA and SF, only on a much smaller scale(for now at least)
Salt Lake to me is over 100+ miles north to south from North of Ogden all the way down to oh Payson or so. That's huge.
The big unknown is whether or not MSAs are redefined in the future. MSAs can be split into two, they can be expanded, they can trade counties with their CSAs, they can be combined, etc. Fast growing metro areas (of any sort) will likely have the most changes to their official boundaries and designations over time. This is truly a wild card.
If they would redefine the Denver MSA and include Boulder (which the definitely should have already done) then Denver would already be 3 million (I believe).
If they would redefine the Denver MSA and include Boulder (which the definitely should have already done) then Denver would already be 3 million (I believe).
I wouldn't hold your breath. There are a lot of decisions made around MSAs that don't make sense to people in local metro areas. Local input and guidance are not taken into consideration. They only base their decisions on national metrics that they establish based on what they deem appropriate.
Tampa and Denver are already there-more like low to mid-3's in each. The designation of their metro areas should absolutely include surrounding cities- anyone that's spent time in either place knows that Boulder/Longmont is part of the Denver Area, and that Bradenton/Sarasota or Plant City/Lakeland could easily be classified in the Tampa Bay Region. There's no open space between any of them-and a huge number of people that commute into work. Of course, indicators like Designated Market Areas do take peripheral areas into account, and both Tampa and Denver tend to do better on those lists. I personally think media market size puts things in perspective..... refhttp://www.tvb.org/media/file/TVB_Market_Profiles_Nielsen_TVHH_DMA_Ranks_2013-2014.pdf
Tampa and Denver are already there-more like low to mid-3's in each. The designation of their metro areas should absolutely include surrounding cities- anyone that's spent time in either place knows that Boulder/Longmont is part of the Denver Area, and that Bradenton/Sarasota or Plant City/Lakeland could easily be classified in the Tampa Bay Region. There's no open space between any of them-and a huge number of people that commute into work. Of course, indicators like Designated Market Areas do take peripheral areas into account, and both Tampa and Denver tend to do better on those lists. I personally think media market size puts things in perspective..... refhttp://www.tvb.org/media/file/TVB_Market_Profiles_Nielsen_TVHH_DMA_Ranks_2013-2014.pdf
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