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View Poll Results: Region with most diverse culinary options
Northeast 15 26.32%
Midwest 4 7.02%
South 13 22.81%
West 25 43.86%
Voters: 57. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-23-2012, 01:22 PM
 
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Well that's really interesting because a recent study - as in released this month - shows Houston, TX as having passed NYC and LA to claim that title. I do have a source:
http://kinder.rice.edu/uploadedFiles...rse%202-13.pdf

And before that there are studies that say NYC and studies that say Los Angeles. Ironically if you go by most foreign born as opposed to most diverse its none of those because that title goes to Miami, FL.
So a city that has 8 million people and is

33% White
28% Hispanic
22% Black
12% Asian

Is less diverse than a city of 2.3 million and is

44% Hispanic
26% White
24% Black
6% Asian

Where almost every ethnic group is represented in the above categories, while the ones below are overwhelming Mexican, American White, African American, and Vietnamese/Indian.

Guess we learn something new everyday.

That's probably the only study you're going to find, and I bet some academic board is tearing it up.

Nothing beats NYC, not LA, not Houston, not SF, not anyone.

And if you need a citation, here's a simple one:
American FactFinder - Search
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Old 03-23-2012, 02:08 PM
 
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Congrats on posting the U.S. Census, that is very informative and what the study I posted was based off of. Now do you have any actual report to support your claims or do you just plan on continuing to speculate?
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Old 03-23-2012, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Denver/Atlanta
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West.
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Old 03-23-2012, 02:20 PM
 
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Congrats on posting the U.S. Census, that is very informative and what the study I posted was based off of. Now do you have any actual report to support your claims or do you just plan on continuing to speculate?
So instead of posting something substantive like I do, you go off the opinions of others.

Do you actually know what you read? Please.
Brooklyn Enclave Helps New York Top Los Angeles as U.S. Diversity Capital - Bloomberg
New York City is the Most Diverse Place in the U.S. Thanks to Under-the-Radar Asians - New York News - Runnin' Scared

Where are all the votes from the West coming from? What kind of cuisines are based from the West?
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Old 03-23-2012, 02:36 PM
 
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So instead of posting something substantive like I do, you go off the opinions of others.

Do you actually know what you read? Please.
Brooklyn Enclave Helps New York Top Los Angeles as U.S. Diversity Capital - Bloomberg
New York City is the Most Diverse Place in the U.S. Thanks to Under-the-Radar Asians - New York News - Runnin' Scared

Where are all the votes from the West coming from? What kind of cuisines are based from the West?
I'm sorry but perhaps your grasp of English isn't very good. An opinion would be going off arbitrary ideas and speculation, like what you had done. What I said was the opposite, it was going off published scholarly article.

I like that you posted the same article on two different sources, that's very good. Now Bloomberg hasn't picked up the Rice report yet but here is that same article you posted on Huffington Post:
New York More Diverse Than Los Angeles Thanks To Brooklyn Neighborhood: Study

Now that was a year ago. Here is Huffington Post less than a month ago:
Houston Surpasses New York And Los Angeles As The 'Most Diverse In Nation'

And again my point in this thread as you can see in every post I've made in it isn't too say Houston is the best, the South is the best, NYC is the worst, or anything of the like. It is simply to say that the answer is equal because these are vast regions and there are enough diversity in cities like Miami, San Francisco, Houston, Boston, NYC, Chicago and so on that to say one region has more diverse food options of another region is silly.
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Old 03-23-2012, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC NoVA
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i read something a while ago that ny is the only city that has every nationality in the world represented in one city so that alone basically backs up that nyc probably has the most diverse food options in the entire world.. plus i personally would prefer the larger selection of italian restaurants and irish pubs that you will find in the northeast vs the selection of chinese and mexican places in the west. then add in regional food like cheesesteaks, pizza, and buffalo wings oh yeah.
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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i read something a while ago that ny is the only city that has every nationality in the world represented in one city so that alone basically backs up that nyc probably has the most diverse food options in the entire world.. plus i personally would prefer the larger selection of italian restaurants and irish pubs that you will find in the northeast vs the selection of chinese and mexican places in the west. then add in regional food like cheesesteaks, pizza, and buffalo wings oh yeah.
Blegh. I'd take the Mexican and Chinese!!
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:20 PM
 
Location: LBC
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I'm sorry but perhaps your grasp of English isn't very good. An opinion would be going off arbitrary ideas and speculation, like what you had done. What I said was the opposite, it was going off published scholarly article.

I like that you posted the same article on two different sources, that's very good. Now Bloomberg hasn't picked up the Rice report yet but here is that same article you posted on Huffington Post:
New York More Diverse Than Los Angeles Thanks To Brooklyn Neighborhood: Study

Now that was a year ago. Here is Huffington Post less than a month ago:
Houston Surpasses New York And Los Angeles As The 'Most Diverse In Nation'

And again my point in this thread as you can see in every post I've made in it isn't too say Houston is the best, the South is the best, NYC is the worst, or anything of the like. It is simply to say that the answer is equal because these are vast regions and there are enough diversity in cities like Miami, San Francisco, Houston, Boston, NYC, Chicago and so on that to say one region has more diverse food options of another region is silly.
Yep. The respective strengths and weaknesses of the various regions effectively offset each other, and any numerical advantage of ethnic plurality is not represented in sufficient numbers at the community level to be practically meaningful. The presence of 5 speakers of Aymara in a given area doesn’t really add to the diversity of the ethnic cuisine available in that area. Shorter version: silly.
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:57 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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You aren't giving NYC a fair shake, and so are a lot of other posters by making really blind, over the top hyperbolic statements about how ALL ______ restaurants in NYC suck or how NYC will never compare to ______ in a category. Or how Philadelphia will never compare to ______ because of some arbitrary reason.
I've clearly given NYC far more of a fair shake than you've given the Bay. I've actually been to and eaten in Flushing, Manhattan Chinatown, Koreatown, etc. and already gave Flushing credit in the Chinese food thread. You on the other hand were going on and on talking about how SF Chinese food doesn't compare to NYC because most of it's in Chinatown compared to NYC having multiple nodes. Sorry, but the fact is you did not know what you were talking about and certainly don't know enough to be making any real arguments for NYC being better in the Chinese food department than SF.

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Where have in any of my posts have I been as insulting as you have toward me? I never attacked any poster for their views, but merely questioned why people are set on thinking a certain way when the contrary has been proven?
I have not insulted you once, you are choosing to take what I say personally. I am pointing out that a lot of your "views" are not views, they're attempts to make factual statements that are not fact. When I and others point out that what you say is not true, you take our comments as personal attacks.

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Sounds a lot like a whole group of posters from one region of the country attacking NYC's Chinese, Korean, Mexican, Indian, etc. food without having fully experienced NYC's whole culinary scene.

Just know that whenever you point at someone, four fingers point right back at you...
... And vice versa.

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You should consider following your own advice.
The next time I create a thread for the purpose of furthering an agenda, remind me of that.
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:00 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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Yep. The respective strengths and weaknesses of the various regions effectively offset each other, and any numerical advantage of ethnic plurality is not represented in sufficient numbers at the community level to be practically meaningful. The presence of 5 speakers of Aymara in a given area doesn’t really add to the diversity of the ethnic cuisine available in that area. Shorter version: silly.

No, but the fact that NYC is simultaneously the largest city in the country and also the most ethnically diverse means that there will be at least a slightly wider variety of offerings than in places that are less diverse and/or less populous. That doesn't say anything about the quality of those offerings, but it does say that NYC is more likely to have something other places don't.

EDIT: And also, diversity of cuisine isn't limited to ethnicity... diversity of cooking styles, experimentation, etc. all add to that. There are quite a few places throughout the country that could stake a valid claim for #1 in that and other senses of the word.
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