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Old 04-28-2012, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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'Naptown to Super City' | Video Library | Indianapolis Star
Thats what you call a Rust Belt Revitalization done right.
From A Rust Belt Detroit like Town to the next great American City hosting the Super Bowl.
Great Documentary on the Urban Transformation of Indianapolis.
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Old 04-28-2012, 11:42 AM
 
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'Naptown to Super City' | Video Library | Indianapolis Star
Thats what you call a Rust Belt Revitalization done right.
From A Rust Belt Detroit like Town to the next great American City hosting the Super Bowl.
Great Documentary on the Urban Transformation of Indianapolis.
I never got the impression that Indy was a true Rustbelt town. And it doesn't look like it was as bad back in the day as Detroit is now; it just had a dead downtown in need to revitalization.
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Old 04-28-2012, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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I never got the impression that Indy was a true Rustbelt town. And it doesn't look like it was as bad back in the day as Detroit is now; it just had a dead downtown in need to revitalization.
Somethings were different ya.
Bottem line though both cities were facing severe decentralization and dead downtowns/inner city.
Center Township of Indianapolis is the old city limits and is a good rule to judge the health of the core.
Right now the Center Township area is turning around and starting to grow again. With the Super Bowl Near eastside legacy project amongst other things. The Suburbs as always are growing and thriving too and since Indy is consolidated with Marion County the city continues to gain population/federal funding.
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Old 04-28-2012, 12:03 PM
 
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'Naptown to Super City' | Video Library | Indianapolis Star
Thats what you call a Rust Belt Revitalization done right.
From A Rust Belt Detroit like Town to the next great American City hosting the Super Bowl.
Great Documentary on the Urban Transformation of Indianapolis.
indianapolis is not a rust belt city, at least not in social, developmental, economic, political or historical terms. it has an entirely different set of dynamics than much older and historically larger industrial cities in the midwest. it's more like a misplaced sunbelt town.
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Old 04-28-2012, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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indianapolis is not a rust belt city, at least not in social, developmental, economic, political or historical terms. it has an entirely different set of dynamics than much older and historically larger industrial cities in the midwest. it's more like a misplaced sunbelt town.

Wrong.
Indianapolis rivaled detroit in the Automobile Industry for the first 15ish years of existance. There are plenty of factories around Indianapolis and Manufacturing was a big part of the city until the 1960s.
Heck there are still vacant factories that are being targeted for revitalization.
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Old 04-28-2012, 12:26 PM
 
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Hopefully this is planting the seeds for the rest of the metro, but a new study shows the core of Cleveland (Downtown, Ohio City, Tremont, and Asiatown) continue to grow, outpacing the suburban sprawl/growth. So for the first time in 5 decades, Cleveland is actually growing from within.

Downtown Cleveland has been the outlier for population trends in Cleveland metro. Up 96% since 1990, and up over 40% since 2000. Apartments are now 97% full and there over 800 more units underconstruction/in the pipeline.

Check it out: Cleveland's inner city is growing faster than its suburbs as young adults flock downtown | cleveland.com
I noticed this as well looking at census tracts since 1990. The one issue is that, while the urban core of the city is growing, the further out areas actually accelrated losses from 1990-2000 to 2000-2010, outweighing urban growth. It will take time for that growth to spread to more areas, but it's a good sign.
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Old 04-28-2012, 12:27 PM
 
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Wrong.
Indianapolis rivaled detroit in the Automobile Industry for the first 15ish years of existance.
perhaps, although indianapolis never reached the same stature as other major rust belt cities, and for a myriad of reasons it did not experience the same level of decline. it was always a smaller, less consequential city than detroit, st. louis, cleveland, pittsburgh, etc.
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Old 04-28-2012, 04:45 PM
 
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indianapolis is not a rust belt city, at least not in social, developmental, economic, political or historical terms. it has an entirely different set of dynamics than much older and historically larger industrial cities in the midwest. it's more like a misplaced sunbelt town.
Indianapolis was very rust belt. Broad is correct in that sense. By mid to late 1970s indianapolis and detroit were on parallel paths. One did something different and remade itseld and the other stayed status quo and fell. Even today u can see a lot of remnants in indianapolis. The city was also following the similar patterns of all rust belts. Strong democratic base, tax and sopend, republian suburbs. The gop one upped them by forming unigov which gave the gop control as it annexed former suburban areas into the blue collar city proper. That was in 1967. If it weren't for unigov indianapolis would be democrat from top to bottom. Even now the city is about 50-50 while the donut counties r strictly republican.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Indianapolis was very rust belt. Broad is correct in that sense. By mid to late 1970s indianapolis and detroit were on parallel paths. One did something different and remade itseld and the other stayed status quo and fell. Even today u can see a lot of remnants in indianapolis. The city was also following the similar patterns of all rust belts. Strong democratic base, tax and sopend, republian suburbs. The gop one upped them by forming unigov which gave the gop control as it annexed former suburban areas into the blue collar city proper. That was in 1967. If it weren't for unigov indianapolis would be democrat from top to bottom. Even now the city is about 50-50 while the donut counties r strictly republican.
Exactly.
Detroit can thank the Unions/Corruption Democrats for its problems
If you want to know what Unions can do to a city look no furthern than Detroit.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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You know most of the non-rustbelt cities are heavily democratic and union too.

You want to know what unions can do to a city, look at Minneapolis; and it doesn't look too bad.
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