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Old 10-02-2019, 03:27 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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The route for Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited, from Boston/NYC to Chicago ( trains link in Albany) is pretty close to that..
Even closer is the Capitol Limited that runs from DC to Chicago via Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and Toledo. Unfortunately, both of these are once a day trains at times that are essentially unusable for the stretch in and around Cleveland. It's either very late night or early, early morning.

A two, three, or four round trip daily at times people in that corridor can actually use would be great. It'd be about the same distance as the Lincoln Service between Chicago and St. Louis which has four daily round-trips. While none of these cities are as big as Chicago, the five main cities it'd hit are pretty sizable.
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Old 10-02-2019, 03:35 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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The media loves rust belt porn. This narrative will never stop. Probably more annoying to people who live here.
Sure, but it also might help nudge people to consider these great cities for tourism or relocation (or even a return home in some cases) as well as for businesses to move to or expand to such. The revival part is a pretty good narrative and a lot better than just dumping on these cities or even just ignoring them.
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Old 10-02-2019, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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Sure, but it also might help nudge people to consider these great cities for tourism or relocation (or even a return home in some cases) as well as for businesses to move to or expand to such. The revival part is a pretty good narrative and a lot better than just dumping on these cities or even just ignoring them.
Perhaps. Just something so condescending about these coastal city people studying abroad in Cleveland or Detroit so they can wrote a blog about the heartbreak, the authenticity, the spirit of people despite living in such a horrible place.
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Old 10-07-2019, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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The media loves rust belt porn. This narrative will never stop. Probably more annoying to people who live here.
That they do. It seems like they love it so they can feel better about their cites or they can't believe that they can find some great things outside of the Atlantic or Pacific Oceans.
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Old 10-07-2019, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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That they do. It seems like they love it so they can feel better about their cites or they can't believe that they can find some great things outside of the Atlantic or Pacific Oceans.
It happens in every city, there was one of those dumb videos of a white girl "discovering" a chopped cheese in Harlem. It's a demographic thing, not geographic.
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Old 10-08-2019, 12:56 PM
 
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Now for a city like Cleveland, I don't think that city's really attractive to any young people as a place to raise a family. The scenery's ok, but the city's reputation is almost comical. There are those Cleveland song videos on YouTube with millions of views; not very good for the city's reputation. Other widely known things associated with Cleveland are the river catching fire and the mass balloon pollution the city caused in the 80s. Definitely not known as the most environmentally friendly city in the country.
The Cuyahoga river caught fire in 1969. That is ancient history for many.

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Old 10-09-2019, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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The Cuyahoga river caught fire in 1969. That is ancient history for many.
I'm actually really looking forward to starting a family in Cleveland. There is a ton of good "scenery" here.

My mom was 10 when the Cuyahoga River caught on fire. It's time to put this to bed.

Though BIG AGREE on the Mike Polk Jr and his dreadfully unfunny and harmful cheapshot videos from a decade ago that never seem to go away.
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Old 10-09-2019, 07:21 PM
 
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I'm actually really looking forward to starting a family in Cleveland. There is a ton of good "scenery" here.

My mom was 10 when the Cuyahoga River caught on fire. It's time to put this to bed.

Though BIG AGREE on the Mike Polk Jr and his dreadfully unfunny and harmful cheapshot videos from a decade ago that never seem to go away.
The only reason that anyone should care about that is because it was the last major River fire in America and was one of the catalysts of the Clean Air and Water Act because people actually cared at the time. There were a lot of river fires along the way.
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Old 10-09-2019, 08:24 PM
 
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The only reason that anyone should care about that is because it was the last major River fire in America and was one of the catalysts of the Clean Air and Water Act because people actually cared at the time. There were a lot of river fires along the way.
Yea, that’s how I feel the Cuyahoga on fire should be viewed as well. The US was and is an industrial giant that allowed major corporations to get away with all kinds of practices because these were all externalities to corporate balance sheets that did not need to be considered even if others like the general populace and the individuals afflicted had to pick up the tab. It was not the first oil slick on an urban river on fire or even the first time the Cuyahoga was on fire, and these trespasses were throughout the US and the industrialized world. What it was was the focusing of attention on these wayward practices and the Rust Belt cities as the early industrial giants were the first to put the rest of the world on alert. Rachel Carson was of Pittsburgh and wrote Silent Spring and Upton Sinclair wrote of Chicago’s industrial practices and polluting of the area with large scale modern stockyards, but these were shots across the bow that applied everywhere in the modern age with its luminaries coming from US industrial cities. There is credit due there, and there has been action since because of these people.
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Old 10-09-2019, 08:35 PM
 
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...We definitely still do let companies wreak havoc, though it's usually not the obvious stuff you can see in a photo.
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