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Old 03-31-2012, 07:03 PM
 
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You'd have to drag me kicking and screaming to move to a rust belt city, have fun with the condos.
Another Low IQ idiot that is a fan of parking lots, strip malls, all you can eat American Buffets, and 90s style McMansion housing plans on Cul-De-Sacs.
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Old 04-01-2012, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Detroit's eastside, downtown Detroit in near future!
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The whole "rust belt" thing gets overblown in that many around the country think it's this huge REGION that is all depressed and falling to dispair. There are certainly rust belt areas around Cleveland, Detroit, Youngstown, Gary, E. St. Louis, Pittsburgh, etc. Many of the suburban areas around those cities are perfectly fine though, and many are extremely nice areas. If you look at the population of the depressed areas (normally within the central city) of those metros, you're actually not even hitting more than around 20% to 25% of the people living in those areas. Expand out to look at Milwuakee, Madison, Chicago, Indianapolis, Grand Rapids, Columbus, Fort Wayne, etc. and there's very little rust belt going on. Chicago has large swaths of run down industrial areas on the south and southeast sides, but a huge % of the metro area is totally disconnected from that.

I was talking with my boyfriend's parents and grandparents this weekend who drove into Chicago from Westland, which is a suburb of Detroit about 10 miles west of downtown. They were saying how much they loved Chicago, and how it always makes them realize how nice the actual city of Chicago is in many areas, and how depressed most of the city of Detroit is. On that note though, we were talking how whenever they travel and say they're from Detroit, and as soon as the "D" gets off their lips, people stop listening and are immediately thinking horrid decay and population loss. His grandma laughed and said "you know, I started saying I'm from Farmington Hills or Ann Arbor instead of "Detroit" just to avoid the stupid comments and looks. His mom started laughing and said "Oh my god, haha, I started just saying Ann Arbor as well....the downtown is closer anyway".

Detroit the CITY has huge issues, and lost almost 250,000 people. The Detroit suburbs on the other hand gained almost 50,000 people over the past 10 years, and have held up very well. The suburbs where around 85% of the metro population lives, by the way.

The first time I went to Detroit to visit my BF we stayed with his family and drove all over the metro area and the suburbs, eating out, shopping, etc. I remember thinking - Wow, this is all really nice and pretty upclass for the most part. Certainly nothing like what you think of when you hear "Detroit". That's all left in the central city areas with a small % of the population.

It's just odd because it's the central city that's all fallen to pieces, and life has moved to the suburbs which never get any press.
first off Westland is not 10 miles from Downtown Detroit and your boyfriends parents and family have no room to talk since most of the people in Metro Detroit (Detroit included) refer to Westland as "Wasteland". I mean, are they really acting like they live in Gross Pointe or Birmingham or even the much nicer areas of the city? C'mon now Westland is far from "nice". i'm willing to bet your bf people don't even come into the city on top of that
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Old 04-01-2012, 03:45 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Another Low IQ idiot that is a fan of parking lots, strip malls, all you can eat American Buffets, and 90s style McMansion housing plans on Cul-De-Sacs.
What's wrong with all-you-can-eat buffets?
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Old 04-01-2012, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas, USA
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Another Low IQ idiot that is a fan of parking lots, strip malls, all you can eat American Buffets, and 90s style McMansion housing plans on Cul-De-Sacs.
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What's wrong with all-you-can-eat buffets?
Great question!

I'm sure Rust Beltians also enjoy the occasional parking lot as well, no? Perhaps as a guilty pleasure.
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Old 04-01-2012, 04:13 PM
 
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first off Westland is not 10 miles from Downtown Detroit and your boyfriends parents and family have no room to talk since most of the people in Metro Detroit (Detroit included) refer to Westland as "Wasteland". I mean, are they really acting like they live in Gross Pointe or Birmingham or even the much nicer areas of the city? C'mon now Westland is far from "nice". i'm willing to bet your bf people don't even come into the city on top of that

"Wasteland" is right next to "Garbage City".
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Old 04-01-2012, 04:46 PM
 
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Great question!

I'm sure Rust Beltians also enjoy the occasional parking lot as well, no? Perhaps as a guilty pleasure.
Haha, actually all of the things listed occur quite frequently in the Rust Belt, and in every other part of America. Alas.
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Old 04-01-2012, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Detroit's eastside, downtown Detroit in near future!
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"Wasteland" is right next to "Garbage City".
oh we have a comedian how lame
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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Great question!

I'm sure Rust Beltians also enjoy the occasional parking lot as well, no? Perhaps as a guilty pleasure.
Do ya'll not have parking lots in Austin, TX? What an odd comment!
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:39 PM
 
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No one outside of Cleveland says Cleveland is back (or was ever relevant in the first place).
I'll cut you a little slack in the event that you've been in the country less than 10 seconds. However, Cleveland used to be one of the largest cities in the country. It's also in the heart of and is the nuclear city of an area that has a $140 billion+ economy. That's not exactly what one would refer to as irrelevant.

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Minneapolis seems to be becoming more popular than I remember it, as is Denver.
Apples to oranges. And, they both have their issues too.
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:50 PM
 
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(1) Cleveland boosters are some of the best cheerleaders in the business;
As they should be. They've had a lot of practice fending off idiotic assumptions and regurgitated criticisms from the ignoramus contingent. So much so that the recital of fact has now been labeled "cheerleading" by the very same people who, through their own ignorance of the city, were simply dead set on being mindlessly critical of a place they know nothing about.
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