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Old 04-01-2012, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas, USA
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Do ya'll not have parking lots in Austin, TX? What an odd comment!
I was being facetious, not really making an earnest commentary on parking lots, lol. Read the full context on the last page or so of posts and I'm sure it'll hit ya!
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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I was being facetious, not really making an earnest commentary on parking lots, lol. Read the full context on the last page or so of posts and I'm sure it'll hit ya!
Can't wait to be blown away by your wit!
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati (Norwood)
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As they should be. They've had a lot of practice fending off idiotic assumptions and regurgitated criticisms from the ignoramus contingent. So much so that the recital of fact has now been labeled "cheerleading" by the very same people who, through their own ignorance of the city, were simply dead set on being mindlessly critical of a place they know nothing about.
QUESTION: "How does one determine when a 'Cleveland Cheerleader Bot'
has lost control?"

ANSWER: "Examine the level of hubris it spouts whenever it opens its mouth."

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Old 04-02-2012, 08:15 AM
 
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first off Westland is not 10 miles from Downtown Detroit and your boyfriends parents and family have no room to talk since most of the people in Metro Detroit (Detroit included) refer to Westland as "Wasteland". I mean, are they really acting like they live in Gross Pointe or Birmingham or even the much nicer areas of the city? C'mon now Westland is far from "nice". i'm willing to bet your bf people don't even come into the city on top of that
No reason to be all bitter on Detroit, jeez.


I made up the 10 miles part cause that's about how long it seemed to get there, and I just looked it up and they're around 15 miles from downtown Detroit and 15 miles from Ann Arbor. I've been to Westland about a dozen times. When did I ever say anything about it being Grosse Pointe!? His family certainly never said anything about it being a rich area. They have a really nice house on a tree lined street though, and we spend most of our time going back and forth from the burbs out that way and Ann Arbor since that's where my BF's brother and sister go to school. The areas around 275, Canton, Ann Arbor, etc. which is all pretty close to their house (within 20 minutes) seemed like perfectly nice areas to me. Sorry if everything can't be rich like Grosse Pointe.

They go into the city to the casinos or Greektown or games. People from the burbs don't seem to go into the city for much else than those things. His family is certainly no different in that regards. I'm sitting here laughing that you're playing them of all the people I know off like snobs or something.
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas, USA
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Can't wait to be blown away by your wit!
Well, that's setting the bar a little high don't you think? At most it merits a grin or perhaps a stifled chuckle.
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Old 04-02-2012, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Detroit's eastside, downtown Detroit in near future!
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No reason to be all bitter on Detroit, jeez.


I made up the 10 miles part cause that's about how long it seemed to get there, and I just looked it up and they're around 15 miles from downtown Detroit and 15 miles from Ann Arbor. I've been to Westland about a dozen times. When did I ever say anything about it being Grosse Pointe!? His family certainly never said anything about it being a rich area. They have a really nice house on a tree lined street though, and we spend most of our time going back and forth from the burbs out that way and Ann Arbor since that's where my BF's brother and sister go to school. The areas around 275, Canton, Ann Arbor, etc. which is all pretty close to their house (within 20 minutes) seemed like perfectly nice areas to me. Sorry if everything can't be rich like Grosse Pointe.

They go into the city to the casinos or Greektown or games. People from the burbs don't seem to go into the city for much else than those things. His family is certainly no different in that regards. I'm sitting here laughing that you're playing them of all the people I know off like snobs or something.
and that exactly why they have no room to talk crap and who is playing them off like snobs? you are! you are the one on here talking about your bf family down talks a city they don't even go into.
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Old 04-02-2012, 05:57 PM
 
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and that exactly why they have no room to talk crap and who is playing them off like snobs? you are! you are the one on here talking about your bf family down talks a city they don't even go into.
When did I say they talk down the city? They were mentioning how the second people hear that they are from "Detroit" they get all these preconcieved notions and act like they feel sorry for them or something. They get a little tired of the ignorance and having to explain "Detroit" when a vast majority of the metro area is nothing like the bombed out areas within the city itself. They mention they are from Ann Arbor or neighboring areas because they have a lot more in common with what they deal with in Metro Detroit than what people think when they list the central city. You don't know me, my BF or their family. You're acting extremely defensive. Yes, Detroit has issues, it's ok to accept that and talk about it. On the other hand though the metro is NOWHERE near as awful as half the people on the coasts would play it off to be.

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Old 04-02-2012, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Detroit's eastside, downtown Detroit in near future!
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When did I say they talk down the city? They were mentioning how the second people hear that they are from "Detroit" they get all these preconcieved notions and act like they feel sorry for them or something. They get a little tired of the ignorance and having to explain "Detroit" when a vast majority of the metro area is nothing like the bombed out areas within the city itself. They mention they are from Ann Arbor or neighboring areas because they have a lot more in common with what they deal with in Metro Detroit than what people think when they list the central city. You don't know me, my BF or their family. You're acting extremely defensive. Yes, Detroit has issues, it's ok to accept that and talk about it. On the other hand though the metro is NOWHERE near as awful as half the people on the coasts would play it off to be.
this^

btw, have you been around the "vast majority" of the Metro? or the city? yea just quit now
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Detroit's eastside, downtown Detroit in near future!
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The whole "rust belt" thing gets overblown in that many around the country think it's this huge REGION that is all depressed and falling to dispair. There are certainly rust belt areas around Cleveland, Detroit, Youngstown, Gary, E. St. Louis, Pittsburgh, etc. Many of the suburban areas around those cities are perfectly fine though, and many are extremely nice areas. If you look at the population of the depressed areas (normally within the central city) of those metros, you're actually not even hitting more than around 20% to 25% of the people living in those areas. Expand out to look at Milwuakee, Madison, Chicago, Indianapolis, Grand Rapids, Columbus, Fort Wayne, etc. and there's very little rust belt going on. Chicago has large swaths of run down industrial areas on the south and southeast sides, but a huge % of the metro area is totally disconnected from that.

I was talking with my boyfriend's parents and grandparents this weekend who drove into Chicago from Westland, which is a suburb of Detroit about 10 miles west of downtown. They were saying how much they loved Chicago, and how it always makes them realize how nice the actual city of Chicago is in many areas, and how depressed most of the city of Detroit is. On that note though, we were talking how whenever they travel and say they're from Detroit, and as soon as the "D" gets off their lips, people stop listening and are immediately thinking horrid decay and population loss. His grandma laughed and said "you know, I started saying I'm from Farmington Hills or Ann Arbor instead of "Detroit" just to avoid the stupid comments and looks. His mom started laughing and said "Oh my god, haha, I started just saying Ann Arbor as well....the downtown is closer anyway".

Detroit the CITY has huge issues, and lost almost 250,000 people. The Detroit suburbs on the other hand gained almost 50,000 people over the past 10 years, and have held up very well. The suburbs where around 85% of the metro population lives, by the way.

The first time I went to Detroit to visit my BF we stayed with his family and drove all over the metro area and the suburbs, eating out, shopping, etc. I remember thinking - Wow, this is all really nice and pretty upclass for the most part. Certainly nothing like what you think of when you hear "Detroit". That's all left in the central city areas with a small % of the population.

It's just odd because it's the central city that's all fallen to pieces, and life has moved to the suburbs which never get any press.

please tell me how you are your bf family knows how most of Detroit is when they don't come to Detroit? oh btw, the Metro area did not have a gain in population, yes people from the city moved to the burbs just like in most cities nationwide during the depression but MI as a whole had a population LOSS, including Metro Detroit
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:27 PM
 
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this^

btw, have you been around the "vast majority" of the Metro? or the city? yea just quit now
Enough of it.

Quit what??? haha, you're the one getting all bent out of shape over nothing. Calm down.
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