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Old 04-03-2012, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Either way, there is momentum happening in Rust Belt cities across the board. Places are reinventing themselves.

For example, Cleveland has made the news a few times this past week:

The Rust Belt Revival: What's Happening in Cleveland, Ohio: Critical Eye : Details

Cleveland development experiencing renewed momentum as more people move downtown

The Return of the Comeback City: Cleveland - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:35 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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I can't speak for the other "Rust Belt" cities, but it's worth noting that the unemployment rate in the Pittsburgh MSA continues to drop in spite of a growing workforce.




That measures the size of the workforce in the Pittsburgh MSA during every February since 1970. By the way, ever since they've been keeping records of the workforce population, October 2011 is the only month with a larger workforce than February 2012.

If the unemployment rate continues to drop in spite of the workforce continuing to grow, then that's a sign of some very positive economic momentum in the Pittsburgh MSA.
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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I can't speak for the other "Rust Belt" cities, but it's worth noting that the unemployment rate in the Pittsburgh MSA continues to drop in spite of a growing workforce.




That measures the size of the workforce in the Pittsburgh MSA during every February since 1970. By the way, ever since they've been keeping records of the workforce population, October 2011 is the only month with a larger workforce than February 2012.

If the unemployment rate continues to drop in spite of the workforce continuing to grow, then that's a sign of some very positive economic momentum in the Pittsburgh MSA.
Pittsburgh is a fantastic city, it has began to emerge as another tremendous success story for the so called 'Rust Belt' ... it is also a very beautiful city that has become very alluring to the young and hip population.
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Old 04-03-2012, 05:23 PM
 
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I can't speak for the other "Rust Belt" cities, but it's worth noting that the unemployment rate in the Pittsburgh MSA continues to drop in spite of a growing workforce.




That measures the size of the workforce in the Pittsburgh MSA during every February since 1970. By the way, ever since they've been keeping records of the workforce population, October 2011 is the only month with a larger workforce than February 2012.

If the unemployment rate continues to drop in spite of the workforce continuing to grow, then that's a sign of some very positive economic momentum in the Pittsburgh MSA.

How many of these jobs are low pay and how many are high pay jobs?
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Old 04-03-2012, 05:32 PM
 
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Any good news, even if exaggerated, is better than purely bad news.
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:53 PM
 
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How many of these jobs are low pay and how many are high pay jobs?
It is mostly Kennywood hiring staff for the up and coming year.
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Old 04-06-2012, 01:52 PM
 
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Something random I came across that made me think of this thread as far as what Chicago's gone through the past 40 years.

Since 1970, the USA has lost around 35% of its manufacturing jobs, while the Chicago metro has lost 60%. Imagine if it hadn't found other industries to replace manufacturing. The metro would be a mess.
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Something random I came across that made me think of this thread as far as what Chicago's gone through the past 40 years.

Since 1970, the USA has lost around 35% of its manufacturing jobs, while the Chicago metro has lost 60%. Imagine if it hadn't found other industries to replace manufacturing. The metro would be a mess.
Maybe you all can supply some of those good replacement ideas to Detroit.
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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While some Rustbelt metros are growing modestly, others are essentially treading water while some of the major Rustbelt metros continue to lose population. According to estimates, Detroit, Pittsburgh and Cleveland continue to lose population. The Detroit metro is estimated to be down by almost 44,000 since 2010 while Pittsburgh is down almost 6,000 and Cleveland is down over 12,000. These are not healthy numbers and they don't match some of the assertions being made here on C-D regularly.
If there isn't even modest growth in large metros it's telling me 2 things: 1.) the population is aging & 2.) younger adults are leaving.
Now, it's still possible to have re-birth and investment in these cities' cores but it doesn't mean that these metros/cities are growing in population. In the end, I do think that the core cities have a brighter future than much of their suburbs.

source: Population of New York City area reaches 19 million - The Business Journals
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This is according to U.S. Census estimates for 2011. You need Microsoft Excel to access the information, but it can be found at the link under "Metro Areas" where it says "50 Largest: July 1, 2011."


Pittsburgh MSA

2010: 2,356,285
2011: 2,359,746
Numerical difference: +3,461
Percent difference: +0.1%
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Old 04-28-2012, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Hopefully this is planting the seeds for the rest of the metro, but a new study shows the core of Cleveland (Downtown, Ohio City, Tremont, and Asiatown) continue to grow, outpacing the suburban sprawl/growth. So for the first time in 5 decades, Cleveland is actually growing from within.

Downtown Cleveland has been the outlier for population trends in Cleveland metro. Up 96% since 1990, and up over 40% since 2000. Apartments are now 97% full and there over 800 more units underconstruction/in the pipeline.

Check it out: Cleveland's inner city is growing faster than its suburbs as young adults flock downtown | cleveland.com
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