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I'd also argue that Miami is a MUCH larger draw for immigrants than any city in Texas or Northern California is, because a much larger swath of people from their societies, instead of those who happen to be well off, end up immigrating to Miami.
What Miami has is a complete replication of society in Latin America, albeit with an American twist (and even there, between the Southern influence coming from the native born non-Caribbean blacks and Florida Whites and the Northeastern transplants is amazing)
What you see in Northern California is a bifurcated society: the poor of Mexico and Central America + the upper classes of Asia jumbled together under the control of native born American Whites. At least in Texas, though lacking in the diverse foreign born department by country, you have the poor, middle, and upper classes of Mexico, India, Vietnam, Nigeria, etc. coming together mixing into the cultural milleu of Texas.
I'd also argue that Miami is a MUCH larger draw for immigrants than any city in Texas or Northern California is, because a much larger swath of people from their societies, instead of those who happen to be well off, end up immigrating to Miami.
What Miami has is a complete replication of society in Latin America, albeit with an American twist (and even there, between the Southern influence coming from the native born non-Caribbean blacks and Florida crackers and the Northeastern transplants is amazing)
Yes, that is a great observation. There are large and visible communities of pretty much every single Latin American country concentrated in a small area (Miami-Dade County). White Hispanics, black Hispanics, mestizos, Amerindians, rich, middle class, poor, every kind of Latin you can think of can be found in Miami. The tropical environment only adds to the "foreignness" of it all.
Was the racial slur really necessary? I don't think so.
Ameded my post, sorry. I always heard the native born Southern based Florida whites referred that way.
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Yes, that is a great observation. There are large and visible communities of pretty much every single Latin American country concentrated in a small area (Miami-Dade County). White Hispanics, black Hispanics, mestizos, Amerindians, rich, middle class, poor, every kind of Latin you can think of can be found in Miami. The tropical environment only adds to the "foreignness" of it all.
It really is a replication of Latin American society. It may not be "diverse' in the strictest sense of the word a la New York City, but its definitely foreign and international.
Though the California natural environment is definitely unique and is hard to replicate throughout the rest of the US, it's still decidedly American.
Someone brought up Hialeah, FL. What it is cosmopolitan about a city where 94% is from one racial group?
Furthermore, it seems like a place that most don't aspire to live in.
Fremont is the same size as Hialeah but Fremont has one of the top school districts in the state of California, one of the largest concentrations of million dollar homes in California and is nearly 75% NON WHITE.
I wouldnt consider Hialeah to be more cosmopolitan than Fremont.
Someone brought up Hialeah, FL. What it is cosmopolitan about a city where 94% is from one racial group?
Furthermore, it seems like a place that most don't aspire to live in.
Fremont is the same size as Hialeah but Fremont has one of the top school districts in the state of California, one of the largest concentrations of million dollar homes in California and is nearly 75% NON WHITE.
I wouldnt consider Hialeah to be more cosmopolitan than Fremont.
First of all, what's with the fixation on income? Again, why is it bad to be a poor immigrant?
Look at the foreign born numbers: Hialeah has a higher percentage of foreign born than Fremont.
In addition, look at the origins of the foreign born. The vast majority of Fremont's foreign born are from 3-4 countries in Asia (China, India, maybe Philippines) + Mexico, while Hialeah is not only Cuban, but has Nicaraguans, Venezuelans, Colombians, Hondurans, Dominicans, etc.
Someone brought up Hialeah, FL. What it is cosmopolitan about a city where 94% is from one racial group?
Furthermore, it seems like a place that most don't aspire to live in.
Fremont is the same size as Hialeah but Fremont has one of the top school districts in the state of California, one of the largest concentrations of million dollar homes in California and is nearly 75% NON WHITE.
I wouldnt consider Hialeah to be more cosmopolitan than Fremont.
Hialeah is definitely not cosmopolitan. It's a working class suburb, nothing more nothing less, it's not particularly attractive and is not rich by any means. What is interesting about it is that is in many ways a recreation of island life in Cuba. You have extended families and friends, many times from the same Cuban province, all living together in a major suburb of a large American city (Hialeah is the 6th largest city in Florida). You also have other Latin communities there (even though they complain sometimes about the "Cubaneria" (Cubanness) in Hialeah). That qualifies as international to me.
I do find it kinda funny discussing Hialeah, though, many Miami residents have a low opinion of the city and associate it with "Chusma" (lower class people) and Santeria (voodoo). Nevertheless, it can be charming sometimes in its own way and it's definitely unique.
Hialeah is definitely not cosmopolitan. It's a working class suburb, nothing more nothing less, it's not particularly attractive and is not rich by any means. What is interesting about it is that is in many ways a recreation of island life in Cuba. You have extended families and friends, many times from the same Cuban province, all living together in a major suburb of a large American city (Hialeah is the 6th largest city in Florida). You also have other Latin communities there (even though they complain sometimes about the "Cubaneria" (Cubanness) in Hialeah). That qualifies as international to me.
I do find it kinda funny discussing Hialeah, though, many Miami residents have a low opinion of the city and associate it with "Chusma" (lower class people) and Santeria (voodoo). Nevertheless, it can be charming sometimes in its own way and it's definitely unique.
I do respect your opinion. We are just looking at this from different perspectives.
Cosmopolitan means lower income, middle income and upper income, not just poor people.
No, cosmopolitan means having elements from all over. Income has little to do with it, though Miami's foreign and native born ran the gamut from rich to poor, while the Bay Area barely has a middle class nowadays.
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I am starting to think that immigrants and minorities are more empowered in NorCal.
Yeah, lets ignore the fact that one of the senators from Florida is the child of Cuban immigrants.
Let's ignore the fact that for the past 50 years, the Latin American community has been represented in politics all over South Florida. The mayor
of Miami has for the past 30 years been from the Latin American community
Let's ignore the fact that many congressional representatives from South Florida are from the Latin American community.
Let's ignore the fact that Brickell, a upper class area of Miami, has large numbers of Latin Americans and non-Hispanic Caribbean people represented there.
If that isn't empowerment, I don't know what is.
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While both immigrant populations are dominated by one group, Fremont has more of every group except Latin Americans.
Yeah, but I'm willing to bet that if you break it down country by country, there are still MORE countries represented in Hialeah than Fremont.
And again, Hialeah has more foreign born in raw numbers and percentage than Fremont. Your numbers confirm it.
Miami is basically a Latin American society geographically located in an Anglo-American country. If that isn't international, I don't know what is.
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