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Here's another way of looking at it - in LA County there are 2,728,321 White Anglo residents. In Miami-Dade County there are only 383,551. LA's Hispanic population is "tempered" by an equally large non-Hispanic population, this is not the case with Miami.
Let's all agree that LA, NYC & Miami all have large, diverse Hispanic communities which have added a lot to their respective cities' character and culture.
Glad context doesn't mean anything. Here's what I said in case you missed it:
And metro statistics on Latinos nonwithstanding, the NY Area has more Latino groups than the LA area. That really isn't up for dispute.
So according to the LA boosters, LA should be the capital of Hispanic America because it has the most Mexicans, Salvadorians, and Guatemalans, while the city of New York has all of those groups and way more of others that LA doesn't even really have any of, either per capita or by raw numbers.
Here it is again in case you missed it
And metro statistics on Latinos nonwithstanding, the NY Area has more Latino groups than the LA area. That really isn't up for dispute.
Now, we can go back to using city statistics if that's more to your liking, but I'm not too sure you'd like the result
Let's all agree that LA, NYC & Miami all have large, diverse Hispanic communities which have added a lot to their respective cities' character and culture.
And with that, the thread meets its inevitable death...
NYC is like the NY Yankees. Everyone wants to beat it but comes woefully short.
Miami and San Juan come close though, with the latter even getting there. but looking at the Continental US only, NYC and Miami tussle it out, and it really depends on your POV.
Well not in this debate but if you want to continue to believe NYC is up there with the likes of Los Angeles and Miami that puts you in a pretty small minority.
There's also a huge difference between LA and NYC's Latino population: segregation. The neighborhoods that NYC's Latino populations live are more likely to be 100% Latino of various nationalities, rather than the multitude of LA's neighborhoods that may have a Latino plurality, but still have other ethnic groups in them.
Not really. If you look that this map (Mapping the 2010 U.S. Census - NYTimes.com), you'll see that very few neighborhoods have over an 80% Hispanic population, and for the few that do, it's just a small pocket and the rest of the neighborhood is mixed. In the South Bronx, it's Hispanics and Blacks. In areas like Sunset Park and Elmhurst, it's Hispanics and Asians. In some parts of the East Bronx, it's Hispanics and Whites. And then you have mixed neighborhoods like Astoria, Jackson Heights, etc.
You do have a few areas like Union City, NJ, or some neighborhoods like Corona, but our Hispanic population is pretty well-integrated into the rest of the population. I definitely wouldn't say it's worse than LA as far as segregation, or at least noticably so.
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Originally Posted by sav858
Exactly why NYC doesn't belong in this discussion and wasn't on the poll.
Denver shouldn't be up there either.
In any case, I'm Hispanic and live in NYC, and the first city that came to mind was Miami, hands-down. I went down there twice, and I was thinking to myself "Good thing I know Spanish", because the Latin American influence was very prevalent. Definitely moreso than here in NYC.
As for LA, I could see it just in terms of numbers, but I don't think the Hispanics there have the political power like in Miami. The same thing for NYC (and at 29% Hispanic, it's not like its Hispanic population is influential in local politics either)
Well for those saying Miami wins this hands down, I'd like to point out a comparision:
South Florida MSA pop: 5,670,125
Los Angeles Hispanic/Latino Pop: 5,767,909
My point is, there are more hispanics in LA than all of EVERYBODY in South Florida. So maybe, just maybe, Miami isn't so far ahead afterall
And yes, New York wins the "Hispanic, bubble jacket wearing population" competition quite easily
New York would win this thread. But in defense of LA, NYC doesn't have Mexicans spilling into their city as badly as LA does which dilutes it's latin diversity.
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