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Denver 194 69.04%
Charlotte 87 30.96%
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Charlotte again!!
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If you've ever visited Denver (which I have) you'll notice that there is a mentality there as if their city is on par with major eastcoast cities such as Atl, DC, Boston, and Philly. IMO, this has to do with Denver's extreme isolation. Let's look at the isolation of Denver vs Charlotte.

Denver
The closest city to Denver (that is larger than Denver) is Phoenix (a metro area smaller than Atlanta). Pheonix is 800 miles away from Denver.

Charlotte
Within 800 miles of Charlotte, we have:
Chicago, Detroit, DC, Atl, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Columbus, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Miami, New Orleans, Nashville, Memphis, Orlando, Tampa, Philly, NYC, Toronto, Indianapolis, and St Louis

Here is how things look locally.

Colorado (Denver is located slightly north east of the state's center)
5,116,796 population
103,642 sq/miles of land
Colorado QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

NC/SC (if they were one state, Charlotte would be located slightly north west of the state's center)
14,335,631 population
78,679 sq/miles of land
North Carolina QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
South Carolina QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau


So, imagine if Charlotte was only slightly larger than it is now. However, there were 9 million fewer people in NC/SC and the nearest city larger than Charlotte was located in Canada (and that city is a smaller metro than Atlanta). Wouldn't most Charlotteans walk around thinking their city was some real "big chit"? That's basically Denver in a nutshell. Make sense now? Isolation has led to better name recognition and well as a MUCH larger "big city" mentality in Denver. Charlotte on the other hand is the "weed" who has to grow up in the shadows of much older, taller, and more established "trees". As a result, Charlotte (a city who is in a similar league as Denver) is not known by name as well as Denver. It's easier to recognize a name when you are the only kid in the classroom; not as easy when you are in the company of many peers as well as bigger kids. If Denver was located only 4 hours away from metro Atlanta and 6 hours away from DC, only then would they (folks in Denver) know what it's like to be a 2.5 million-ish metro in the shadows of larger-nearby cities.

Luckily for Charlotte, our president (who is a smart man) reconized this truth that I've just posted. He was able to see beyond the media calling Charlotte "Charlotte, NC". He saw similarities in cities like Charlotte that he saw in cities like Denver. As a result, he decided to expand his party's geography by placing their convention in Charlotte right after a successful convention in Denver. All of the evidence shows what guys like you and I have been saying all along, but few people will ever give Charlotte the respect it deserves because we're not the only kid in the classroom. Plain and simple. Isolation breeds destination. Great for Denver, sucks to be Charlotte.
Great post!
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Old 03-16-2013, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Denver/Atlanta
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Originally Posted by urbancharlotte View Post
If you've ever visited Denver (which I have) you'll notice that there is a mentality there as if their city is on par with major eastcoast cities such as Atl, DC, Boston, and Philly. IMO, this has to do with Denver's extreme isolation. Let's look at the isolation of Denver vs Charlotte.

Denver
The closest city to Denver (that is larger than Denver) is Phoenix (a metro area smaller than Atlanta). Pheonix is 800 miles away from Denver.

Charlotte
Within 800 miles of Charlotte, we have:
Chicago, Detroit, DC, Atl, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Columbus, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Miami, New Orleans, Nashville, Memphis, Orlando, Tampa, Philly, NYC, Toronto, Indianapolis, and St Louis

Here is how things look locally.

Colorado (Denver is located slightly north east of the state's center)
5,116,796 population
103,642 sq/miles of land
Colorado QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

NC/SC (if they were one state, Charlotte would be located slightly north west of the state's center)
14,335,631 population
78,679 sq/miles of land
North Carolina QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
South Carolina QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau


So, imagine if Charlotte was only slightly larger than it is now. However, there were 9 million fewer people in NC/SC and the nearest city larger than Charlotte was located in Canada (and that city is a smaller metro than Atlanta). Wouldn't most Charlotteans walk around thinking their city was some real "big chit"? That's basically Denver in a nutshell. Make sense now? Isolation has led to better name recognition and well as a MUCH larger "big city" mentality in Denver. Charlotte on the other hand is the "weed" who has to grow up in the shadows of much older, taller, and more established "trees". As a result, Charlotte (a city who is in a similar league as Denver) is not known by name as well as Denver. It's easier to recognize a name when you are the only kid in the classroom; not as easy when you are in the company of many peers as well as bigger kids. If Denver was located only 4 hours away from metro Atlanta and 6 hours away from DC, only then would they (folks in Denver) know what it's like to be a 2.5 million-ish metro in the shadows of larger-nearby cities.

Luckily for Charlotte, our president (who is a smart man) reconized this truth that I've just posted. He was able to see beyond the media calling Charlotte "Charlotte, NC". He saw similarities in cities like Charlotte that he saw in cities like Denver. As a result, he decided to expand his party's geography by placing their convention in Charlotte right after a successful convention in Denver. All of the evidence shows what guys like you and I have been saying all along, but few people will ever give Charlotte the respect it deserves because we're not the only kid in the classroom. Plain and simple. Isolation breeds destination. Great for Denver, sucks to be Charlotte.
What? No there isn't. The only mentality here is that there are great outdoor options and great sports. No one here walks around thinking this is a big league city.
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:04 PM
 
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Also, charlotte is not in the same league as Denver! Any way you slice it! Population, sports teams, educated people, health of population, GDP of city, transportation. Charlotte is a step below.
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Charlotte again!!
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Also, charlotte is not in the same league as Denver! Any way you slice it! Population, sports teams, educated people, health of population, GDP of city, transportation. Charlotte is a step below.
Congratulations. Your city is ONE level above mine
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:50 PM
 
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Also, charlotte is not in the same league as Denver! Any way you slice it! Population, sports teams, educated people, health of population, GDP of city, transportation. Charlotte is a step below.
I'd watch what you say. Come next Census things may look a little different. 33rd to the 23rd largest is quite a jump.

How far did Denver jump again?
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Denver/Atlanta
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I'd watch what you say. Come next Census things may look a little different. 33rd to the 23rd largest is quite a jump.

How far did Denver jump again?
Exactly how much is Charlotte's metro population now? Denver is still larger.
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Charlotte again!!
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Exactly how much is Charlotte's metro population now? Denver is still larger.
2.3 million people vs. 2.6 million people.... Are you serious?
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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Denver now had a CSA of 3.2 million while Charlotte is 2.5, Charlotte is outmatched again.
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Charlotte again!!
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Denver now had a CSA of 3.2 million while Charlotte is 2.5, Charlotte is outmatched again.
Lol again we are talking msa's. Not CSA's of over 8000 sq miles...
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Denver/Atlanta
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2.3 million people vs. 2.6 million people.... Are you serious?
Pretty decent jump, but nothing really changed. Charlotte is still a notch (Maybe 2) below Denver.
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