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Chicago and Toronto are VERY close when it comes to population, density, downtown employment, # of highrises and overall street-level feel. I think it's reasonable to put them in the same tier.
NYC is way, way above both, with roughly 4x the downtown employment, skyscrapers, density, etc. It's like a couple tiers above.
Philly, Boston, San Francisco, DC, and Montreal are all somewhat behind Toronto and Chicago. More than barely behind, but not really super far behind. Kinda a half-tier behind.
Chicago and Toronto are VERY close when it comes to population,
City limits yes, urban area no. Chicago's urban area has got roughly 60% more people. Nothing close about it.
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density,
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downtown employment,
No. See this link previously posted by nei. Though old, it shows that the Loop has almost 3 times the employment of Toronto CBD, and almost double the employment density. Massive difference.
Chicago and Toronto are VERY close when it comes to population, density, downtown employment, # of highrises and overall street-level feel. I think it's reasonable to put them in the same tier.
NYC is way, way above both, with roughly 4x the downtown employment, skyscrapers, density, etc. It's like a couple tiers above.
Philly, Boston, San Francisco, DC, and Montreal are all somewhat behind Toronto and Chicago. More than barely behind, but not really super far behind. Kinda a half-tier behind.
So NYC would be Tier 1
Then big gap, and Toronto/Chicago Tier 2
And Boston/SF/DC/Phily/Montreal Tier 2.5
I would put Toronto a little below Chicago and on the same level as Washington, D.C. The Golden Horseshoe has almost the same population as the Baltimore-Washington CSA.
But it is kind of splitting hairs because the Baltimore-Washington CSA has a larger GDP than the other two. So does the San Francisco Bay Area. There's no way that Montreal, as nice as it is, is in the same tier as DC and SF.
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Agree with this wholeheartedly. When I visit Toronto, it just seems smaller, similar in scope to Philadelphia and frankly, it feels a lot like Washington, DC. in feel. However, in certain areas Toronto does have a nice bustle, which I think can best be attributed to narrower streets (relative to Chicago) and the fact there are transit nodes. Small areas of high density scattered throughout the city. I love those areas.
You know, I agree with you about the DC comparison. On the surface, Toronto may seem like Chicago with its lake shore and large skyline or like New York as they're both the largest cities of their countries and extremely diverse, but Toronto actually does feel more like DC than it does New York or Chicago.
These are the urbanized area populations as of April 2012:
Chicago: 9,121,000
Toronto: 6,139,000
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