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View Poll Results: Which of these states is the hub of black culture in the US?
Texas 15 4.37%
New York 26 7.58%
Georgia 193 56.27%
Mississippi 24 7.00%
Tennessee 2 0.58%
Lousiana 19 5.54%
Illinois 10 2.92%
Alabama 9 2.62%
DC 29 8.45%
California 16 4.66%
Voters: 343. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-25-2012, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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The Caribbean is part of the Americas, so they are also black Americans. There isn't any one state as a hub, over half the eastcoast is culturally dominated by black Americans. From a global perspective I would say Brazil.

While I see what you're trying to say, at the same time, black people of the united states are still just as different an entity from blacks of the Caribbean and/or Central and South America as we are from Africans. So it is rather naive and hasty to lump us in with people who, while of similar ancestry/heritage, have a much different culture, history and experience from our own.
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Exactly... what a silly question, especially considering the map I provided to the OP in another thread clearly states where the highest % of black people live.
This is the map you posted:


It shows that the highest percentages are in the South, but not in Texas. That map shows 4/5ths of Texas being like the states West of it. Contrast that to Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, etc.

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I wonder if the word "Dixie" means anything to the OP.
It means "the South." Mason-Dixon line. Oh, and it's a line of disposable kitchenware. Are you implying that I didn't realize that the South has a (in many cases dominant) black populace or something?
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Cardboard box
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^Texas has an extremely large number of blacks, more than any other state. But then again not all of Texas is "The South". The part of Texas, that is more "southern" has a lot of blacks. Imagine that.
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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^Texas has an extremely large number of blacks,
I know.

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more than any other state.
I know.

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But then again not all of Texas is "The South".
I know.

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The part of Texas, that is more "southern" has a lot of blacks.
I know.

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Imagine that.
Where's all this smarminess coming from? Totally unwarranted.
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:28 PM
 
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Exactly... what a silly question, especially considering the map I provided to the OP in another thread clearly states where the highest % of black people live.

I wonder if the word "Dixie" means anything to the OP.
I think there are enough Black people in the US that are spread out enough that the insinuation of a singular "hub" of black culture to be representative of the Black experience is a false one.

However, I notice "California" is amongst the choices, but not "North Carolina" "South Carolina" or even a state like Michigan (Detroit has had an effect on Black culture too) despite the fact that North Carolina nearly has as many Black people as California and all of the above states blow out California in terms of Black %

California isn't even the Blackest state in the West anymore: it's Nevada!
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:32 PM
 
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That map is also from 1990. 20 years later, there are many more black people in Texas, Atlanta, Florida and DC. So it's a but inaccurate.

Also, look how the black population abruptly drops off when you move from the piedmont to the mountains in GA, NC and VA. That's a remnant from the days of slavery when there were virtually no blacks in the Appalachians because there were hardly any plantations there. Those demographics have remained even today. North Georgia is the only place in the state where Hispanics are a much larger minority than African Americans.
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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I think there are enough Black people in the US that are spread out enough that the insinuation of a singular "hub" of black culture to be representative of the Black experience is a false one.

However, I notice "California" is amongst the choices, but not "North Carolina" "South Carolina" or even a state like Michigan (Detroit has had an effect on Black culture too) despite the fact that North Carolina nearly has as many Black people as California and all of the above states blow out California in terms of Black %

California isn't even the Blackest state in the West anymore: it's Nevada!
I don't necessarily think that there's a monolithic "hub" for black culture in the US either, but hey, since we have a billion threads about Asians here and there's a contingent wangsting about the lack of black-themed threads in city vs. city as an example of pervasive racism, well, here you go: a non-black dude in CA made a poll asking a simple question that isn't filled with weasel words that are trying to disparage any other groups in the process, or as a means to denigrate the group in question.

Have at it!
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:36 PM
 
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One more thing to remember.

Atlanta didn't accumulate its black population due to slavery. The city was founded just a few decades before the civil war and even by then the population was around 10,000. There was never a plantation aristocracy in Atlanta, and its black population truly began to grow after the civil war, as free blacks from other areas of Georgia and the deep south moved to Atlanta for economic reasons, and to a lesser extent, as a safe haven. Atlanta always had a reputation for being more progressive and welcoming to blacks than Jim Crow dominated areas elsewhere. (Although segregation obviously still existed there)
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:36 PM
 
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I think there are enough Black people in the US that are spread out enough that the insinuation of a singular "hub" of black culture to be representative of the Black experience is a false one.

However, I notice "California" is amongst the choices, but not "North Carolina" "South Carolina" or even a state like Michigan (Detroit has had an effect on Black culture too) despite the fact that North Carolina nearly has as many Black people as California and all of the above states blow out California in terms of Black %

California isn't even the Blackest state in the West anymore: it's Nevada!

Can't say I blame them, how can you NOT love Las Vegas?
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:42 PM
 
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Can't say I blame them, how can you NOT love Las Vegas?
I'm good after one weekend, then I'd sprint home. The climate wouldn't agree with me too much. I need some humidity!

It seems that Blacks from Southern California have been flocking to Las Vegas though. I'd feel a bit isolated out there in the desert though, and I'd be burned out by the strip real real quick.
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