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View Poll Results: Premier US city without NYC
Washington, DC 38 8.00%
Boston 19 4.00%
Philadelphia 73 15.37%
Chicago 179 37.68%
Los Angeles 142 29.89%
San Francisco 24 5.05%
Voters: 475. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-12-2012, 08:57 AM
 
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Imagine the US without NYC for a second.

What would be the premier US city?
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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Chicago, will be the largest economic center. Their would be more building bigger population, just more everything. LA would still be second.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Jersey City
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If NYC disappeared today, probably Los Angeles. It's our #2 city that would then become our #1 city.

If NYC never existed to begin with, probably Philadelphia. NYC became what it is due to its importance as a major east coast port and port of entry for 19th century immigrants, and transportation connections to the west. If there was no NYC, that stuff would have happened in another east coast city, probably Philadelphia.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:26 AM
 
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If NYC disappeared today, probably Los Angeles. It's our #2 city that would then become our #1 city.

If NYC never existed to begin with, probably Philadelphia. NYC became what it is due to its importance as a major east coast port and port of entry for 19th century immigrants, and transportation connections to the west. If there was no NYC, that stuff would have happened in another east coast city, probably Philadelphia.

This is basically the premise.

Not re-writing history and speculating on what would have developed and what wouldnt have.

Just take NYC out for a second and look at the US. What is the go to, premier city?
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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If we look historically, it would most likely be Philadelphia. Philly was the premier city for a good stretch of the time before the rise of NYC.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:40 AM
 
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If we look historically, it would most likely be Philadelphia. Philly was the premier city for a good stretch of the time before the rise of NYC.
I agree, but im looking at it just as it is today.


Imagine if the US had developed as it stands today, but without NYC.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:44 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Chicago, will be the largest economic center. Their would be more building bigger population, just more everything. LA would still be second.
Really? Then why are the CSA economies of LA, DC and SF larger than Chicago's?

BTW, the answer is LA, both in terms of population and GDP.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:54 AM
 
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Its interesting because its less clear cut without NYC.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:57 AM
 
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If NYC disappeared today, probably Los Angeles. It's our #2 city that would then become our #1 city.

If NYC never existed to begin with, probably Philadelphia. NYC became what it is due to its importance as a major east coast port and port of entry for 19th century immigrants, and transportation connections to the west. If there was no NYC, that stuff would have happened in another east coast city, probably Philadelphia.
Agreed on both accounts. Philly had a better port than Boston (and Baltimore the time up the Chesepeake was very long back then) and was also competing with NYC as the financial hub which it took the lion share of by the mid 1800s.

If NYC was not there and did not have the great port, yes would have likely been Philly but it does and the rest as they say is history.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Shaw.
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If NYC disappeared today, probably Los Angeles. It's our #2 city that would then become our #1 city.

If NYC never existed to begin with, probably Philadelphia. NYC became what it is due to its importance as a major east coast port and port of entry for 19th century immigrants, and transportation connections to the west. If there was no NYC, that stuff would have happened in another east coast city, probably Philadelphia.
I agree with this 100%. I'd imagine if NYC disappeared today, part of its influence would be dispersed to Boston, Philadelphia and D.C., but without the concentration, America's premier city would definitely shift. IMO, it would easily be Los Angeles, with Chicago as the 2nd spot.

If New York never existed, I think it would be Philadelphia or another large east-coast city. The Atlantic was the most important ocean until the late 20th Century, so America's growth would have reflected that.
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