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Old 07-30-2012, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Shaw.
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Bingo. If this was the 1980's there would be no question. Manhattan was a dangerous place to be back in the 70's-80's. It had the highest crime statistics of any of the 5 boroughs, which is why some foreigners still have the "Oh if you go to Manhattan you're going to get mugged" stereotype.
I've found a lot of Japanese people assume you'll be shot at if you visit New York City (although weirdly, a lot of them want to go anyway). They also assume every American owns a gun.

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Kind of off topic, but I recently visited Manhattan a few months ago after haven't been there since about 1990 (I just couldn't take seeing the aftermath of the 9/11 destruction) and was floored by how different it was. Especially Chinatown and Times Square (which was pretty much empty and still full of peep shows last I saw). Some would say the changes were good (and I suppose they are), but I felt a kind of pinch at my heart for the old Manhattan of my childhood. Oh well.

For those who don't remember:


Dirty Seedy Old Times Square and 42nd St. ("The Deuce") before gentrification - YouTube
Yeah, you're not the only one. I hear that sentiment a lot. Since my earliest memories of New York are probably from the mid-90s, I have no desire to see seedy New York (although the pushing out of some immigrant groups is sad).
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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alphabet.jpg (image)
Wow. Hard to believe that is Lower Manhattan. I'm obviously of the generation that WaronXmas is referring to that has only seen NYC in the 00s.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:57 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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Yup, and like this.

Loisaida (Lower East Side) 1984



Loisaida today (It's not that to me anymore, should be renamed Yuppieville)




Both shots are from the same rooftop. VIVA LOISAIDA
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Old 07-30-2012, 02:29 PM
 
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I knew I saw the US Bank building in the background in one of the scenes during the Dark Knight Rises.
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Old 07-30-2012, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Not really the same, especially since Chicago is a real city.
New York is a real city. "Gotham" is one of its many nicknames, including the Big Apple, the City That Never Sleeps and the Melting Pot. Duh!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._in_New_York#N

http://www.nyc10best.com/culture-his...w-york-city/2/

http://www.timeout.com/newyork/attra...knames-history
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Old 07-30-2012, 03:08 PM
 
Location: not Chicagoland
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The only place in America named "Gotham" is in Wisconsin. Your argument is past weak.
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Old 07-30-2012, 03:10 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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New York is a real city. "Gotham" is one of its many nicknames, including the Big Apple, the City That Never Sleeps and the Melting Pot. Duh!

List of city nicknames in New York - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I'm suspicious of a source that lists one of New York City's nicknames as Hymietown.
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Old 07-30-2012, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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The only place in America named "Gotham" is in Wisconsin. Your argument is past weak.
And the only place in America named "The Windy City" is...well...there is no place in America named "The Windy City." I guess Chicago doesn't exist, eh?
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Old 07-30-2012, 03:26 PM
 
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The only place in America named "Gotham" is in Wisconsin. Your argument is past weak.
Wait, are you seriously saying you've never heard NYC referred to as Gotham in a non-Batman context?
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Old 07-30-2012, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Wait, are you seriously saying you've never heard NYC referred to as Gotham in a non-Batman context?
He's saying that Gotham is not a real place; therefore, the inspiration for the fictitious Gotham City could not have possibly derived from a real city such as New York (but naturally, it could have derived from Chicago).
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