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Old 10-19-2012, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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What puts it above though?
It's the larger economic force, it's plain larger, it's more known, it's a cultural beast.

LA is the median to which others in the world see the US. Chicago is not. You're right that LA is twice the size, $300B larger in GDP, more culturally prominent, and it's both known more and toured more than Chicago.

Can you list what puts Chicago over the top without saying finance?
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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I thought that if you lived in a strategic city, that meant that you were a strategic person. Hmmmmmm, I wish I was from one of those top cities, than maybe I would be accepted more around the world xD ROFLOLMAO. Why did I have to be from Chester Pennsylvania!
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:17 PM
 
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I understood his point but not yours, California is no where near as image conscious as the eastern seaboard...
Thanks. That was the best yuck I've had all day.
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:20 PM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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It's the larger economic force, it's plain larger, it's more known, it's a cultural beast.

LA is the median to which others in the world see the US. Chicago is not. You're right that LA is twice the size, $300B larger in GDP, more culturally prominent, and it's both known more and toured more than Chicago.

Can you list what puts Chicago over the top without saying finance?
How's that culture a credit completely to LA?

The last time I checked NYC was just as prominent as LA in the film industry, more in the fashion industry, more in the leisure industry. So why not just say NYC is the "cultural exporter" to the world? Also of the BIG 6 Film Studios; Paramount Pictures is owned by Viacom (HQ in NYC), Warner Brothers are owned by Time Warner (HQ in NYC), Sony Pictures Entertainment owned by Sony (HQ in Tokyo), Universal Pictures owned by General Electric and Comcast (HQ in NYC and Philly), Fox Entertainment is owned by News Corp (HQ in NYC), so that leaves Walt Disney Pictures which is the only one based in LA. By market share it's 18.1% of the Film Industry's revenue and NYC's total is 47%.

Chicago is the more important corporate hub, not only does it have more high market capitalization companies than LA but its market capitalization worth is higher than LA's.

Yes LA is larger than Chicago, just like Shanghai is larger than both Singapore and Hong Kong but which comes out on top? My point exactly.

How's that? I stand by what I said, LA is more important but they are in the same tier. There is no "significant" lead.
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Which is why I asked you what point you're trying to make?

I understood his point but not yours, California is no where near as image conscious as the eastern seaboard.
Also, I am pretty sure that California as a place is wayyyyy more famous and has a much more clearly defined image in the world than the "Northeast" which is not really a place in the conciousness of most people.
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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But downtown1, why isn't Shanghai above Hong Kong or Singapore? It's more than twice the size and has the larger GDP. It's also the "cultural exporter" of China, the largest most populated country in the world. LOL
Nice link you're quoting. It has DC and Boston ranked above L.A., with much smaller economies. Cities in the same country, mind you. They must have more accounting office water coolers per capita or something. How adorable.

Singapore doesn't even appear on half those lists. Its a one-trick poney. It's all finance and...more finance. It's the Chicago of Asian cities.
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:33 PM
 
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Wow..Americans in general must be bias against Los Angeles in the culture department I guess . Oh wait, LA residents seem to agree with the rankings. This will drive our internet dudes nuts

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Overall VISITOR

Rank City Score
1 Philadelphia 4.62
2 New York City 4.61
3 Washington, D.C. 4.51
4 Boston 4.49
5 Chicago 4.47
6 Santa Fe 4.46
7 San Francisco 4.45
8 Savannah 4.39
9 Providence 4.35
10 New Orleans 4.30
11 San Juan, P.R. 4.27
12 Portland, ME 4.24
13 Charleston 4.19
14 Kansas City 4.19
15 Minneapolis/St. Paul 4.18
16 Seattle 4.15
17 Nashville 4.13
18 Denver 4.12
19 Baltimore 4.10
20 San Diego 4.02
21 Memphis 4.00
22 Houston 3.99
23 Los Angeles 3.97
24 San Antonio 3.93
25 Portland, OR 3.85
26 Austin 3.83
27 Honolulu 3.70
28 Las Vegas 3.63
29 Atlanta 3.58
30 Salt Lake City 3.45
31 Phoenix/Scottsdale 3.44
32 Dallas/Fort Worth 3.42
33 Miami 3.29
34 Anchorage 3.27
35 Orlando 3.04


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1 New York City 4.68
2 Santa Fe 4.65
3 Washington, D.C. 4.58
4 Boston 4.58
5 Philadelphia 4.58
6 Charleston 4.55
7 Chicago 4.54
8 San Francisco 4.52
9 Houston 4.42
10 New Orleans 4.42
11 San Juan, P.R. 4.39
12 Savannah 4.38
13 Nashville 4.38
14 Minneapolis/St. Paul 4.37
15 Kansas City 4.33
16 Portland, ME 4.33
17 Providence 4.21
18 Memphis 4.18
19 Seattle 4.15
20 San Diego 4.11
21 Dallas/Fort Worth 4.08
22 Los Angeles 4.01
23 San Antonio 4.00
24 Denver 3.99
25 Portland, OR 3.95
26 Baltimore 3.91
27 Austin 3.89
28 Anchorage 3.81
29 Atlanta 3.80
30 Salt Lake City 3.75
31 Phoenix/Scottsdale 3.68
32 Honolulu 3.41
33 Miami 3.36
34 Las Vegas 3.24
35 Orlando 3.05

America's Favorite Cities 2011 - Culture | Travel + Leisure
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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These lists are not for the internet sock-puppets & crying babies.



America's Most Powerful Global Cities - Jobs & Economy - The Atlantic Cities
New York really dominates those lists. It's number 1 or 2 in every ranking. The top 3 seem clear: New York, London and Tokyo, in that order. It's interesting that Tokyo is as large as New York and London combined but ranks behind them overall.
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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The last time I checked NYC was just as prominent as LA in the film industry, more in the fashion industry, more in the leisure industry. So why not just say NYC is the "cultural exporter" to the world? Also of the BIG 6 Film Studios; Paramount Pictures is owned by Viacom (HQ in NYC), Warner Brothers are owned by Time Warner (HQ in NYC), Sony Pictures Entertainment owned by Sony (HQ in Tokyo), Universal Pictures owned by General Electric and Comcast (HQ in NYC and Philly), Fox Entertainment is owned by News Corp (HQ in NYC), so that leaves Walt Disney Pictures which is the only one based in LA. By market share it's 18.1% of the Film Industry's revenue and NYC's total is 47%.
Being home to corporate headquarters does not make NYC a co-film capital. Wow. The studios where the creative process takes place arelocated in Los Angeles.

What does this bad logic have to do with Chicago anyway? Chicago is completely overshadowed in this category by both cities--culturally, The Bay Area slaps it around these days.
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:41 PM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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Being home to corporate headquarters does not make NYC a co-film capital. Wow. The studios where the creative process takes place arelocated in Los Angeles.

What does this bad logic have to do with Chicago anyway? Chicago is completely overshadowed in this category by both cities--culturally, The Bay Area slaps it around these days.
Aren't most Apple employees in China? Isn't that where most of Apple's gadget inventory is being built? So I guess by that logic the bay area loses significance.

What NYC has to do with this point Chandler, is fairly simple. NYC, not LA, is rightfully the "cultural exporter" and "importer" for that matter between the US and the rest of the world. Your guys in Hollywood, they're working for NYC's corporate revenues. Theorhetically you can call Hollywood the worlds largest white collar "manufacturer". The Film Industry's 47% of total revenues go to NYC, 18% stay in LA.

I still haven't heard an argument about what puts LA "significantly" on top besides GDP. I'm not being dismissive either, I already stated I feel LA is more important despite the rankings but I see them as the same tier. Nothing short of that.
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