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Without looking through all posts and BRG's Indy boosterism, of the cities you list, I would go to Chicago and consider no others, so long as you're comfortable with the cost. If you truly want a safe and truly urban experience with an extensive, reliable public transportation infrastructure, it's the only place on your list that meets that criteria, IMO. A lot of boosters will try to sell you that the others offer a much superior urban experience to Indy. The difference, if any, is marginal at best. Get the Chicago experience. If you don't like it, you can always come home. Good luck.
Without looking through all posts and BRG's Indy boosterism, of the cities you list, I would go to Chicago and consider no others, so long as you're comfortable with the cost. If you truly want a safe and truly urban experience with an extensive, reliable public transportation infrastructure, it's the only place on your list that meets that criteria, IMO. A lot of boosters will try to sell you that the others offer a much superior urban experience to Indy. The difference, if any, is marginal at best. Get the Chicago experience. If you don't like it, you can always come home. Good luck.
And have a job lined up in this terrible economy.
That should be Relocation rule #1 if your not retired.
Dont move unless you have a job lined up.
Pittsburgh isn't Midwest. The city isn't built and looks nothing like most Midwestern cities and unlike Midwestern cities it predates the American Revolution. Besides Cleveland and Chicago, there is not much travel from Pittsburghers to places in the Midwest. We go to Boston, NYC, Philly, and DC not Indy, St. Louis, etc.
Pittsburgh isn't Midwest. The city isn't built and looks nothing like most Midwestern cities and unlike Midwestern cities it predates the American Revolution. Besides Cleveland and Chicago, there is not much travel from Pittsburghers to places in the Midwest. We go to Boston, NYC, Philly, and DC not Indy, St. Louis, etc.
What how can you say where pittsburg people go besides Indy....tehe we the people in cincinnati only go to indy for chicago.
Pittsburgh isn't Midwest. The city isn't built and looks nothing like most Midwestern cities and unlike Midwestern cities it predates the American Revolution. Besides Cleveland and Chicago, there is not much travel from Pittsburghers to places in the Midwest. We go to Boston, NYC, Philly, and DC not Indy, St. Louis, etc.
It sounds like you haven't been to St. Louis, because if you had, you'd know that St. Louis feels and looks a lot like Pittsburgh (minus the hills). St. Louis is also older than the United States (1764). Maybe you need to check out some of our St. Louis photo threads-- you'll see that St. Louis' built environment is more similar to Pittsburgh than to almost any other Midwestern city:
I have to say as a st.louisian, Pittsburgh is not like st.louis. Pittsburgh is less gritty, more built in the downtown area and its much more hilly. Pittsburgh is its own city with its own culture although it seems kind of Midwestern but mostly northeastern.
Without looking through all posts and BRG's Indy boosterism, of the cities you list, I would go to Chicago and consider no others
Says the one from Nowhere,IN. Chicago is absolutely worth looking into: I loved visiting it when I lived in Columbus and I still do living in Minneapolis. However, I would not for a second consider living there as a single young(ish) male. Chicago has tons of bad, and I mean bad neighborhoods and the north side of Chicago is not immune from the culture which is responsible for the killing fields on the south side. The city, unlike NYC, has not shown initiative in stamping this out. When 200,000 people flee your city in a decade it's a small hint that something is wrong and steps should have been taken to mitigate that. Even in Wicker Park, the hipster turned quasi-yuppie neighborhood that has priced out many artists and hipsters, you will be followed on residential streets by people wanting change, a cigarette, your wallet, etc from you. One thing I do not miss about Chicago is how you can go from an extremely vibrant area and while wanting to walk a few blocks to a restaurant or bar a few blocks away and it is a dead street except for you and an aggressive vagrant (singular if you're lucky).
Basically, I don't understand the point of paying Chicago prices with Chicago problems. How many yuppie or sports bars, sushi or pizza joints does one really need to make it worth it before it's a non-factor? Minneapolis, pound for pound, is bar none the best city in the Midwest. Chicago is looking to us for how to be all bike-friendly and European-like: not the other way around. That's because the culture here is measurably superior in numerous aspects. It also pays to remember that there are great spots that are unique and can't be found in Chicago, let alone New York or Los Angeles. Columbus, for example, bests any of those for vegans: an indie live music venue with a vegan-only kitchen, better vegan pastries/baked goods (I've sampled such goods from New York and it doesn't hold a candle to Columbus), and phenomenal high-end vegan cuisine (the owners get regular requests to move out east). All Minneapolis needs to say is that it has a perfectly executed zombie bar in its worst neighborhood which makes it many times better than your dozens of worst neighborhoods.
Basically, unless you really can't afford the trips between Indy and Mpls that's the only reason not to move and even then you should research Milwaukee, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus (the most functional urban city in Ohio: nothing else matches the miles/dozens of blocks of High St), Louisville, and Pittsburgh (yes, it's not Midwestern but you're close enough). If you're willing to go for smaller cities in the region you can add Madison and Ann Arbor where sprawl issues are minimal since everything is either in or next to downtown.
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The city isn't built and looks nothing like most Midwestern cities and unlike Midwestern cities it predates the American Revolution. Besides Cleveland and Chicago, there is not much travel from Pittsburghers to places in the Midwest. We go to Boston, NYC, Philly, and DC not Indy, St. Louis, etc.
