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Old 11-07-2012, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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Actually, there are other areas with economic variety among Asians, as certain metros/cities have been refugee hotspots for decades. Even in my area, you have poor/working class SE and South Asians that are refugees, as well as students and other immigrants of an East and South Asian background that range from working to upper middle class. So, even the range in terms of Asians is nationwide, to a good degree now.
Oh I know that it isn't ONLY a California phenomenon, but merely that is more widespread here simply due to the sheer numbers of Asians that are in California, both in terms of percentage of population and raw numbers. It's sadly a part of the Asian American experience that isn't seen as much, both by mainstream America and the Asian American community. Let's be real on why this is: the non-Chinese, non-Korean, and non-Japanese American community have collectively less media exposure and clout than the above 3 ethnic communities. The rest of us might as well not exist.

The movie Gran Torino, for example, was a depiction of the Hmong community in Michigan (would've probably been more aptly applied to somewhere in Wisconsin or Minnesota though), and they're the Asian group with the lowest collective socioeconomic standing.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:27 AM
 
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North Carolina is the new Florida
By the look of these stats, Florida is the new Florida.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:38 AM
 
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Well Canada is part of the British Commonwealth, which is why Hong Kong citizens (remember, HK was a British colony) were able to migrate there with much ease. Commonwealth members typically make barriers for migrating between signatory countries much easier to deal with. It's the same reason why that the South Asian population in Canada is proportionately higher than it is here (though its starting to change).

I grew up in CA (mostly here in LA, spent 3 years in the Bay Area for college) and know what you're talking about. This isn't a California only phenomenon anymore though. There are rich and middle class Asian immigrants migrating all over the US. Look at the DC area, Chicago area suburbs, eastside of Seattle, etc.

What separates CA out really is the fact that there is a huge Asian underclass here. Not so much in the SGV (though there are dodgy pockets of West Covina which are mostly Filipino), but more so in Long Beach, Stockton, Fresno, Oakland, San Francisco, etc, but that mostly has to do with the large numbers of Southeast Asian refugees and their descendants that live here.
This has been shown in the film Freedom Writers and shows like Gangland. Cambodian, Vietnamese, Filliipino, Laotian street gangs.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:40 AM
 
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Oh I know that it isn't ONLY a California phenomenon, but merely that is more widespread here simply due to the sheer numbers of Asians that are in California, both in terms of percentage of population and raw numbers. It's sadly a part of the Asian American experience that isn't seen as much, both by mainstream America and the Asian American community. Let's be real on why this is: the non-Chinese, non-Korean, and non-Japanese American community have collectively less media exposure and clout than the above 3 ethnic communities. The rest of us might as well not exist.

The movie Gran Torino, for example, was a depiction of the Hmong community in Michigan (would've probably been more aptly applied to somewhere in Wisconsin or Minnesota though), and they're the Asian group with the lowest collective socioeconomic standing.
Very true. Those are the big 3 when it comes to pop-culture exposure in America.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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Very true. Those are the big 3 when it comes to pop-culture exposure in America.
Yeah, I've had people tell me that "your PEOPLE doesn't count" in terms of Asians, the fact that I grew up Muslim, etc. It's like it offends some people's world view whenever some sort of stereotype is broken and when something can't be pigeonholed. I don't get that at all.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Oh I know that it isn't ONLY a California phenomenon, but merely that is more widespread here simply due to the sheer numbers of Asians that are in California, both in terms of percentage of population and raw numbers. It's sadly a part of the Asian American experience that isn't seen as much, both by mainstream America and the Asian American community. Let's be real on why this is: the non-Chinese, non-Korean, and non-Japanese American community have collectively less media exposure and clout than the above 3 ethnic communities. The rest of us might as well not exist.

The movie Gran Torino, for example, was a depiction of the Hmong community in Michigan (would've probably been more aptly applied to somewhere in Wisconsin or Minnesota though), and they're the Asian group with the lowest collective socioeconomic standing.
The story took place in Minneapolis, but Detroit lured the film away from there ($$$$). That's why Detroit (which has a tiny Hmong population) is the location of that film and not a more typical Hmong enclave like Minneapolis/St. Paul, Fresno, or LA.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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The story took place in Minneapolis, but Detroit lured the film away from there ($$$$). That's why Detroit (which has a tiny Hmong population) is the location of that film and not a more typical Hmong enclave like Minneapolis/St. Paul, Fresno, or LA.
Yeah, and most of the Hmong actors and actresses were from the Central Valley (Fresno, Visalia, etc.). However, I guess Detroit was chosen because its already been established in the mass media that its a run-down warzone, so the story would fit right in.

Just as a correction, there's no large Hmong population in LA: its more of a Central and Northern California group (Fresno, Sacramento, Stockton, Merced, Visalia, etc. though not the Bay Area). Cambodians, conversely, are more of a Southern California group. Laotians are 50/50.
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:20 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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By the look of these stats, Florida is the new Florida.
Florida is the new America
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:24 PM
 
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Yup...

California: -860,537

Thats why I need to get out of here!!

Most of my friends and family have already.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Spain
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*All numbers are from the ALONE column.
http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/b...c2010br-04.pdf
http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/b...c2010br-06.pdf
http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/b...c2010br-05.pdf
http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/b...c2010br-11.pdf

Non-Hispanic White American change 2000-2010

United States total: 2,264,778

Northeast: -1,319,168
Midwest: -289,148
South: 2,778,668
West: 1,094,776

North Carolina: 576,840
Texas: 464,032
Florida: 426,213
Arizona: 421,384
Colorado: 317,913
Utah: 317,454
South Carolina: 310,449
Tennessee: 294,852
Georgia: 285,259
Washington: 224,314
Virginia: 220,813
Idaho: 176,952
Missouri: 164,274
Nevada: 159,080
Oregon: 148,232
Kentucky: 137,642
Alabama: 78,573
Arkansas: 73,334
Minnesota: 67,999
Indiana: 67,080
Montana: 60,805
Wisconsin: 56,781
Washington DC: 50,286
Alaska: 31,532
Delaware: 18,779
Wyoming: 45,075
New Hampshire: 39,798
Hawaii: 32,252
South Dakota: 24,917
Maine: 24,000
New Mexico: 20,315
Oklahoma: 19,013
West Virginia: 16,290
Nebraska: 5,259
North Dakota: 8,858
Vermont: 4,792
Kansas: -3,458
Mississippi: -5,621
Iowa: -9,221
Rhode Island: -54,748
Louisiana: -59,507
Connecticut: -92,583
Maryland: -128,589
Michigan: -146,752
Ohio: -178,848
Massachusetts: -213,559
Pennsylvania: -227,803
Illinois: -256,387
New Jersey: -343,331
New York: -456,734
California: -860,537

Black American change 2000-2010

United States total: 4,271,129

Northeast: 450,336
Midwest: 451,136
South: 3,023,741
West: 345,916

Florida: 664,357
Georgia: 600,893
Texas: 575,032
North Carolina: 311,083
Maryland: 222,887
Virginia: 161,106
Pennsylvania: 152,077
Tennessee: 124,506
Ohio: 106,374
South Carolina: 105,648
Minnesota: 102,681
Arizona: 100,135
Alabama: 95,381
Massachusetts: 90,944
Nevada: 83,149
Indiana: 81,363
Mississippi: 64,576
Missouri: 64,000
New Jersey: 63,005
New York: 59,415
Wisconsin: 54,688
Connecticut: 52,453
Washington: 49,775
Kentucky: 41,256
Delaware: 41,148
Colorado: 36,674
California: 35,190
Arkansas: 30,945
Iowa: 27,295
Oklahoma: 16,676
Nebraska: 14,344
Kansas: 13,666
Oregon: 13,544
Rhode Island: 13,281
Utah: 11,634
Maine: 8,947
New Mexico: 8,207
New Hampshire: 6,000
West Virginia: 5,982
South Dakota: 5,522
Idaho: 4,354
North Dakota: 4,044
Vermont: 3,214
Alaska: 1,476
Montana: 1,335
Wyoming: 1,026
Louisiana: 452
Hawaii: -579
Illinois: -10,461
Michigan: -12,380
Washington DC: -38,187

Hispanic American change 2000-2010

United States total: 15,171,776

Northeast: 1,737,882
Midwest: 1,537,146
South: 6,640,812
West: 5,255,936

California: 3,047,163
Texas: 2,791,255
Florida: 1,541,091
Arizona: 599,532
New York: 549,339
Illinois: 497,316
New Jersey: 437,953
North Carolina: 421,157
Georgia:418,462
Pennsylvania: 325,572
Nevada: 322,531
Washington: 314,281
Colorado: 303,086
Virginia: 302,285
Maryland: 242,716
Massachusetts: 198,925
New Mexico: 188,017
Indiana: 175,171
Oregon: 174,748
Tennessee: 166,221
Connecticut: 158,764
Utah: 156,781
Oklahoma: 152,703
Wisconsin: 143,135
South Carolina: 140,606
Ohio: 137,551
Michigan: 112,481
Kansas: 111,790
Alabama: 109,772
Minnesota: 106,876
Arkansas: 99,184
Missouri: 93,878
Louisiana: 84,822
Idaho: 74,211
Nebraska: 72,980
Kentucky: 72,897
Iowa: 69,071
Mississippi: 41,912
Rhode Island: 39,835
Delaware: 35,944
Hawaii: 33,143
Wyoming: 18,562
New Hampshire: 16,215
Alaska: 13,397
South Dakota: 11,216
Montana: 10,484
West Virginia: 9,989
Washington DC: 9,796
Maine: 7,575
North Dakota: 5,681
Vermont: 3,704

Asian American change 2000-2010

US Difference: 4,431,254

Northeast: 941,347
Midwest: 531,505
South: 1,291,063
West: 1,667,339

California: 1,163,394
Texas: 402,277
New York: 375,268
New Jersey: 245,540
Florida: 188,565
Virginia: 178,865
Illinois: 163,331
Washington: 158,732
Georgia: 141,297
Pennsylvania: 129,275
Massachusetts: 111,644
Maryland: 107,924
Nevada: 105,170
North Carolina: 95,273
Arizona: 84,459
Minnesota: 72,266
Michigan: 61,689
Ohio: 59,600
Connecticut: 53,252
Colorado: 43,815
Indiana: 43,338
Wisconsin: 40,471
Oregon: 39,913
Missouri: 36,488
Tennessee: 34,580
South Carolina: 23,037
Alabama: 22,249
Hawaii: 21,210
Kansas: 20,956
Kentucky: 19,186
Utah: 18,177
Iowa: 16,459
Arkansas: 15,882
Louisiana: 15,374
Alaska: 13,019
New Hampshire: 13,016
Delaware: 12,290
Nebraska: 10,362
New Mexico: 8,953
Mississippi: 7,126
Idaho: 7,180
Rhode Island: 6,792
DC: 5,867
Maine: 4,460
North Dakota: 3,303
South Dakota: 3,272
West Virginia: 2,972
Vermont: 2,730
Wyoming: 1,655
Montana: 1,562
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By MSA, included a few more metros too, just in case anybody was wondering.

White
Austin +180,172
Raleigh +155,518
Charlotte +153,147
Portland +124,519
Las Vegas +107,286
Columbus +86,324
Indianapolis +81,074
San Antonio +77,491
Orlando +66,403
Tampa +57,482
Sacramento +52,831
Cincinnati +32,438
Cleveland -112,102

Black
Charlotte +133,639
Orlando +106,876
Las Vegas +86,779
Tampa +85,010
Columbus +74,864
Raleigh +74,822
Indianapolis +57,541
Sacramento +38,529
Cincinnati +34,675
San Antonio +32,995
Austin +29,246
Portland +18,718
Cleveland +7,760

Asian
Las Vegas +115,570
Sacramento +112,523
Portland +56,333
Orlando +45,465
Austin +44,506
Tampa +42,449
Charlotte +31,868
Raleigh +31,819
San Antonio +25,287
Columbus +24,944
Indianapolis +23,965
Cincinnati +20,446
Cleveland +12,507

Hispanic
San Antonio +294,986
Orlando +267,229
Las Vegas +266,501
Austin +210,553
Tampa +203,566
Sacramento +155,552
Charlotte +104,488
Portland +99,002
Raleigh +68,987
Indianapolis +66,715
Columbus +37,853
Cincinnati +32,489
Cleveland +25,563
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This is by MSA.

White
Phoenix +320,370
Dallas +158,283
Denver +125,825
San Jose +120,732
Atlanta +106,267
Houston +85,643
DC +58,019
Seattle +27,015
Riverside +5,613
San Diego -48,786
Boston -136,692
Philadelphia -140,551
San Francisco -185,650
Chicago -193,010
Detroit -194,535
Miami -267,991
Los Angeles -361,772
New York -558,563

Black
Atlanta +502,855
Dallas +254,830
Houston +229,944
DC +178,338
Miami +175,551
Philadelphia +117,556
Phoenix +98,719
Minneapolis +96,981
Riverside +73,353
Boston +58,067
Seattle +54,731
Denver +31,400
San Jose +8
San Diego -1,091
Detroit -23,268
San Francisco -26,192
Chicago -38,971
Los Angeles -69,414
New York -83,416

Asian
New York +539,306
Los Angeles +394,833
San Francisco +243,339
DC +215,363
Seattle +171,549
Houston +169,877
Chicago +162,526
Dallas +160,671
San Jose +151,442
Riverside +134,761
Atlanta +129,359
Philadelphia +120,766
Boston +103,922
San Diego +102,585
Phoenix +88,249
Minneapolis +72,737
Detroit +47,785
Miami +42,595
Denver +38,030

Hispanic
Riverside +767,440
New York +760,983
Houston +745,935
Dallas +634,449
Miami +608,865
Los Angeles +583,070
Chicago +462,377
Phoenix +418,706
DC +341,107
Atlanta +276,993
San Diego +240,383
San Francisco +205,545
Philadelphia +181,963
Denver +170,247
Seattle +147,043
Boston +128,911
San Jose +81,479
Minneapolis +77,162
Detroit +41,147
Why are the state totals for Oregon and Washington significantly lower than the totals for Portland and Seattle, respectively? I'm looking at the Asian and Black numbers.
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