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Old 12-06-2012, 09:46 AM
 
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Hilarious how they know where you live and that you exist when it comes to taxes/dealing with the IRS but not when it comes to being apart of the census.
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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Hilarious how they know where you live and that you exist when it comes to taxes/dealing with the IRS but not when it comes to being apart of the census.
Not everyone pays taxes though. There are still classes of people who don't work, but aren't counted as exemptions by anyone, such as the disabled, the screwed over by parents college student, etc.

But yeah, the IRS should probably be the one releasing at least the population statistics, and the demography part of it (which really what most US census nuts are interested in) should be done by the US census.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:34 AM
 
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Look at those projected growth rates for DFW, Houston, San Antonio, and the Austin area. In five years Texas will be a completely different state than it is today, and even more different than it was five years ago. It's like an exaggerated version of what has happened in places like Utah, Idaho, Arizona, and Colorado. Colorado today is a different place than it was when I grew up here 20 years ago, but it's not dramatically different. Whatever Colorado was in the 80s, it is mostly more of whatever that was. I wonder what is and will happen with Texas. Politically, anyway, I doubt it will be the same kind of state. I hear conservatives--and I'm sometimes one of them--who dream of leaving places like California for Texas. But that state seems more liberal today than it was five years ago, and my hunch is that, like Colorado, it will become a more polarized, purple, and competitive state in the future.

More amazing, Texas is following the same cultural trajectory as California. Thirty years ago California was Texas. Everyone wanted to be there, and so many simply chose to be there. It was a generally western-style Republican state, and then it all hit a tipping point somewhere along the line, and the state became too big for its own britches. I hope that doesn't happen to Texas. At some point, though, there may be a greater demand for government services, for haute couture, and for a a lifestyle not unlike that of California. It'll be interesting to watch, and see if Texas can avoid becoming California and do its own thing in its own way.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:36 AM
 
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I'll also point out that Colorado Springs will outpace growth in the Denver area. There is a real argument that culturally, economically, demographically, etc., Colorado's "center of gravity" has already shifted south of Denver to somewhere between Denver and Colorado Springs. El Paso County is now Colorado's biggest county. It'll be interesting to see if that translates into greater political control over the state. Already I think we're sort of seeing that happen.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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More amazing, Texas is following the same cultural trajectory as California. Thirty years ago California was Texas. Everyone wanted to be there, and so many simply chose to be there. It was a generally western-style Republican state, and then it all hit a tipping point somewhere along the line, and the state became too big for its own britches. I hope that doesn't happen to Texas. At some point, though, there may be a greater demand for government services, for haute couture, and for a a lifestyle not unlike that of California. It'll be interesting to watch, and see if Texas can avoid becoming California and do its own thing in its own way.
A lot of Texans lament about this, but the Texas is following in California's footsteps almost blow for blow.

Theres nothing anyone can do to stop it, so the best thing to do is just chill.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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No Pittsburgh or San Francisco? So much for top 50 metros.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Spain
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Look at those projected growth rates for DFW, Houston, San Antonio, and the Austin area. In five years Texas will be a completely different state than it is today, and even more different than it was five years ago. It's like an exaggerated version of what has happened in places like Utah, Idaho, Arizona, and Colorado. Colorado today is a different place than it was when I grew up here 20 years ago, but it's not dramatically different. Whatever Colorado was in the 80s, it is mostly more of whatever that was. I wonder what is and will happen with Texas. Politically, anyway, I doubt it will be the same kind of state. I hear conservatives--and I'm sometimes one of them--who dream of leaving places like California for Texas. But that state seems more liberal today than it was five years ago, and my hunch is that, like Colorado, it will become a more polarized, purple, and competitive state in the future.

More amazing, Texas is following the same cultural trajectory as California. Thirty years ago California was Texas. Everyone wanted to be there, and so many simply chose to be there. It was a generally western-style Republican state, and then it all hit a tipping point somewhere along the line, and the state became too big for its own britches. I hope that doesn't happen to Texas. At some point, though, there may be a greater demand for government services, for haute couture, and for a a lifestyle not unlike that of California. It'll be interesting to watch, and see if Texas can avoid becoming California and do its own thing in its own way.
Texas has a lower cost of living and more land to build on so it may escape the soaring housing costs and high cost of living in general that California endures. Like California before it, Texas is about to get real crowded real soon but maybe in a more manageable way.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Default You should see Katy, Tx

Katy, Tx is like living on one big giant construction site that never ends. You can drive down the road for miles and see nothing but houses under construction, commercial developments, schools and especially roads and freeways being built. It is surreal. Of those 140,000 new homes projected in Houston probably 100,000 will just be within 5 miles of the Grand Parkway stretching from Sugar land to the Woodlands.
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Denver metro
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I'll also point out that Colorado Springs will outpace growth in the Denver area. There is a real argument that culturally, economically, demographically, etc., Colorado's "center of gravity" has already shifted south of Denver to somewhere between Denver and Colorado Springs. El Paso County is now Colorado's biggest county. It'll be interesting to see if that translates into greater political control over the state. Already I think we're sort of seeing that happen.
Colorado's "center of gravity" has shifted?? The suburban counties (Douglas and El Paso) between Denver and Colorado Springs have traditionally been fairly conservative. Seeing how Colorado's political climate has trended more liberal in recent years, I'm not sure how you're seeing this area as having "political control" over the state?
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Texas has a lower cost of living and more land to build on so it may escape the soaring housing costs and high cost of living in general that California endures. Like California before it, Texas is about to get real crowded real soon but maybe in a more manageable way.
I think a big thing to consider when it comes to California v. Texas is the topography of both places. People are more willing to put up with the inefficiencies of huge populations in California because the geographical area is, well, a whole lot better. It's pretty and the climate is pretty enjoyable year round.

Texas, as much as I love it, isn't particularly a beautiful place, and the weather here is several orders of magnitude more insane than California's. Will people put up with the inefficiencies of huge population growth without the added bonus of natural benefits? I would think that as Texas reaches that tipping point, other, less populated places would start to look a lot more appealing to those without a built-in connection to Texas.

I also hope that, on an infrastructural level, Texas realizes the need to for better urban layouts. If we really are going to house this many people Texas needs to really rethink how its cities are built.
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