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Old 03-18-2013, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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Tampa's metro is no where near 4 million. The census estimates put us at about 2.8 million.

The economy sucks because for decades the only thing holding this metro economy up was the housing market and hospitality/service jobs. Even today, about the best type of job you can hope to find in this city would be as a part time waiter.

I am very lucky. Tampa only has one major company headquartered here and I happen to work for them. I really wish I had other options though......
Come move to Orlando....
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Old 03-18-2013, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Franklin, TN
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Miami's CSA now reaches to Vero Beach? It's 138 miles!
Nashville's CSA now has a diagonal stretch from western Lawrence County (on the Alabama border) to eastern Macon County (on the Kentucky border) of 151 miles. It would take about 3.5 hours to traverse. Our CSA covers 7,768 square miles. Insane. Only 811 square miles of that falls into the urban area/urban cluster category.
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Old 03-18-2013, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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When will the demographic estimates for 2012 be released?
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:00 PM
 
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Exactly why I am glad I didn't go to graduate school at USF.
I don't think you made a wrong choice. On top of the economy being terrible the city is just completely lacking in culture. I can't wait to get out of here.

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Old 03-18-2013, 04:03 PM
 
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Come move to Orlando....
My mom keeps begging me to move to Orlando instead of move out of state. Haha. My mother (and her whole family in fact) moved to Florida from Kentucky. None of them can possibly understand why someone would want to leave this state. I hate it here. The first chance I get I am moving to the Northeast.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:43 PM
 
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From the looks of things Miami is growing faster now. Maybe Atlantas growth is slowing. That may work in its favor. I know they have some awesome projects that will be worked out over the next few years that could take it to the next level.
I think it's probably international migration that fuels a large part of Miami's growth.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:51 PM
 
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Atlanta should never have dabbled in the real estate bubble as extensively as it did. Outside of Florida it has had the worst real estate collapse in the South. My roommate has two condos in Midtown and the value on both just continues to drop year after year. The city also never brought its unemployment rate down, which is still above 8% (not sure why).

Atlanta also has a lot of bad parts of town, which will scare away families from moving there. I think if it wasn't for the nice climate, low taxes, and pretty scenery (North Georgia is gorgeous), it wouldn't be nearly on the scale that it is today.

It would be cool if Atlanta could get back to the 3% growth rates that it had prior to the recession, but I don't think that will ever happen. I really like that city.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:54 PM
 
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Atlanta should never have dabbled in the real estate bubble as extensively as it did. Outside of Florida it has had the worst real estate collapse in the South. My roommate has two condos in Midtown and the value on both just continues to drop year after year. The city also never brought its unemployment rate down, which is still above 8% (not sure why).
Unfortunately, you're right about this. Once the housing market truly starts mending, then I think you'll see everything else fall in line.

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Atlanta also has a lot of bad parts of town, which will scare away families from moving there.
This isn't quite accurate. The hoods of Atlanta proper are mainly to the west and south, so they can easily be avoided. Families simply opt for the 'burbs, for the most part.

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I think if it wasn't for the nice climate, low taxes, and pretty scenery (North Georgia is gorgeous), it wouldn't be nearly on the scale that it is today.
I don't think you know too much about Atlanta's history. If those were the primary reasons, then Chattanooga, Knoxville, Nashville, Birmingham, etc. would all be just as large as Atlanta--but they obviously aren't.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:56 PM
 
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I think it's probably international migration that fuels a large part of Miami's growth.
Miami is one of the few cities in America that saw population growth get bigger post recession. I have no idea why.
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Old 03-18-2013, 05:01 PM
 
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Unfortunately, you're right about this. Once the housing market truly starts mending, then I think you'll see everything else fall in line.



This isn't quite accurate. The hoods of Atlanta proper are mainly to the west and south, so they can easily be avoided. Families simply opt for the 'burbs, for the most part.



I don't think you know too much about Atlanta's history. If those were the primary reasons, then Chattanooga, Knoxville, Nashville, Birmingham, etc. would all be just as large as Atlanta--but they obviously aren't.
I lived in Midtown for a Summer back in 2010. Atlanta definitely has hoods in more places than the South and West. Even the gentrified urban neighborhoods of Midtown are scary to walk around in at night. And Atlanta's burbs are pretty bad too. I remember hearing that Dekalb has one of the highest homicide rates for suburban counties.

Nashville has had similar growth rates to Atlanta the past few decades, hasn't it? It isn't nearly as big because Nashville has never been a big city.

Edit: I mistakenly said Decatur in my original post. I ment to say Dekalb county.
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