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View Poll Results: Which offers more natural beauty and outdoor activities (hiking, parks, skiing, etc.)
Western Washington 40 83.33%
Western Oregon 8 16.67%
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Old 03-30-2013, 01:04 PM
 
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The pinot noir grape grows in Western Oregon. The vast majority of grapes grown in WA are on the east side of the state.
Yes. Which I said in both of my posts. Thank you for pointing it out again...
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Old 03-30-2013, 01:15 PM
 
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Washington by far, mainly because of two stellar mountain ranges (Olympics and North Cascades). Both have tall volcanoes (Mt. Rainier and Mt. Hood plus some others, have really visited either but Mt. Rainier sounds like the more spectacular one). The Puget Sound islands are an added plus for Washington, but Oregon has its scenic coastline which makes it up for it. The Columbia River Gorge is another plus for Oregon. It's shared between both states, but it seems like the best hiking and views (especially waterfalls) are on the Oregon. Crater Lake is a unique attraction that Oregon has. Both have interesting temperate rainforests, but the most extreme ones are in the western Olympic Peninsula.

But since I care more about mountain scenery, I think Washington is much better. There's not really any comparison on that. Oregon is pretty, Washington takes it up to 11.
Probably the best mountain scenery in Oregon is actually in Eastern Oregon in the Wallowas which almost looks like the High Sierra or somewhere in Montana--with a lot of granite peaks, high alpine lakes, and so on packed into a small area.. Western Washington could win just on the basis of the North Cascades and Olympics alone though. The best spot in Western Oregon for mountains is around Bend near the Sisters and Broken Top, but in general the big volcanoes are cool, but somewhat spread apart.
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:09 PM
 
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It's honestly comparing like to like. Not all that much distinction between the two. Western Washington has the advantage of the Sound, and the Olympics. But Oregon has the coast (which IMO is far superior to Washington's ... most Washingtonians go to the Oregon coast), the Willamette River valley, the Rogue River & valley, the Coast Range which is not bad (though the Olympics beat it), and then there's Crater Lake. And yes, the Oregon side of the Columbia Gorge is much more gorgeous than the Washington side. The Washington side's a nice drive, but it's only because you can see the Oregon side better, being at a bit of a distance.
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Hmm. You skipped the North Cascades. Out of curiosity, is the North Cascades a feature that's often overlooked by locals in the pacific northwest? Or if not overlooked, rather down on the list of natural places to visit. My impression was that Seattle residents often spend more time in the Cascades closer to home and the Olympics while Portland resident often don't bother make the trip all the way there unless they're serious hikers.
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Old 03-31-2013, 04:00 PM
 
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It's real tough to make a choice. I mean the Cascades start just north of Redding and you will find majestic snow capped peaks all along the I-5 corridor. Maybe the comparison should be which has more natural beauty, Eastern Oregon or Eastern Washington since there is a noticable difference.
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Old 03-31-2013, 04:02 PM
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It's real tough to make a choice. I mean the Cascades start just north of Redding and you will find majestic snow capped peaks all along the I-5 corridor. Maybe the comparison should be which has more natural beauty, Eastern Oregon or Eastern Washington since there is a noticable difference.
Unless I missed something, the northern section of the Cascades (mainly north I-90 but more so north of US-2) look much more majestic than the rest of the range.
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Old 03-31-2013, 04:12 PM
 
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Unless I missed something, the northern section of the Cascades (mainly north I-90 but more so north of US-2) look much more majestic than the rest of the range.
I have never been north of I-90 except in Montana (along US 2) and thats because I took Amtrak's Empire Builder from Portland, OR to Chicago, IL. I have been extensively in Western Washington south of the I-90 corridor and IMO I did'nt see too much of a different landscape that would put either state over the other. One of the most beatiful drives for me was on Oregon State route 58 between US 97 and I-5. The route crosses the Cascades and follows along a lakeshore with stunning views. The Union Pacific North-South mainline follows closely along route 58 as well.

I highly recommend that drive.
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Old 03-31-2013, 04:31 PM
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I've done Oregon 138, not which is close to 58. Similar? Seemed like a completely different range than the washington section.

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I have never been north of I-90 except in Montana (along US 2) and thats because I took Amtrak's Empire Builder from Portland, OR to Chicago, IL. I have been extensively in Western Washington south of the I-90 corridor and IMO I did'nt see too much of a different landscape that would put either state over the other.
I think you missed the most scenic part of the state. Perhaps this might help if you're unfamiliar with the Cascades north of I-90 (all photos mine):









and more... Cascades is southern Washington I haven't explored much but this is what I've seen:



(above photo is actually just over the Oregon border)



Nice, but the volcanoes are rather isolated and similar scenery exists in Oregon.
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Old 03-31-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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I'd say the overall scenery of Western Washington is more dramatic than Oregon. The one thing I'd definitely give to Oregon though are the ocean beaches - much, much better there than in WA in my experience.
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Old 03-31-2013, 04:49 PM
 
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I've done Oregon 138, not which is close to 58. Similar? Seemed like a completely different range than the washington section.



I think you missed the most scenic part of the state. Perhaps this might help if you're unfamiliar with the Cascades north of I-90 (all photos mine):









and more... Cascades is southern Washington I haven't explored much but this is what I've seen:



(above photo is actually just over the Oregon border)



Nice, but the volcanoes are rather isolated and similar scenery exists in Oregon.
Those first two top photos you posted reminded me so much of US 550 driving through Silverton towards Montrose in the Colorado Rockies. Very nice.

58 is about 50 miles north of the route you took so I imagine there isn't much of a difference in landscape except the lack of lakes in the forground compared to 58. Railroad routes generally take the path of least resistance when they plan a line through a mountain pass. In the case of 58, you will travel in sections that are like deep gorges since trains are limited by grading. In the case of 58 you go "through" the pass unlike other routes that go "over" the pass so to speak.

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