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Old 04-03-2013, 07:59 AM
 
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*shrug* that's the same population density as manhattan. i'd rather live in that level of density than sub-1000/km2 suburban sprawl.
The difference is Manhattan is a very wealthy place, not a bunch of people living in slums.
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Old 04-03-2013, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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The difference is Manhattan is a very wealthy place, not a bunch of people living in slums.
NYC is very wealthy and Manhattan epitomizes this, but it should be noted that Manhattan also has 20% of it's population living below the national poverty line, which has been increasing the past few years. These are national trends, but will cause bigger problems for cities as expensive as NYC imo.

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Old 04-03-2013, 08:43 AM
 
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NYC is very wealthy and Manhattan epitomizes this, but it should be noted that Manhattan also has 20% of it's population living below the national poverty line, which has been increasing the past few years. These are national trends, but will cause bigger problems for cities as expensive as NYC imo.

NYC
Agreed, and a bit off topic, but the point was extreme density does not always equal great urban experience, QOL plays a big part in it (at least for me), what sets NYC (Manhattan) apart from many other extremely dense cities around the world is the quality of life factor.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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That's not horrible at all. That's 71,000 ppsm, about the same density of Manhattan. So it's basically as if Manhattan covered all of NYC (which is 308 square miles) instead of just 23 square miles. And while dense, Manhattan does not at all feel overcrowded.
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I never said "expanding Manhattan" would be the outcome. I said that is the same density of Manhattan over a NYC sized area.

The lacking of reading comprehension around here is incredible.
Oh, you didn't say the bold part???
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Agreed, and a bit off topic, but the point was extreme density does not always equal great urban experience, QOL plays a big part in it (at least for me), what sets NYC (Manhattan) apart from many other extremely dense cities around the world is the quality of life factor.
Very true, although I'm sure DF, Mumbai, etc have their enclaves.
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Old 04-03-2013, 10:31 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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Yeah, Finally one that is actually true to the actual size and population of Miami. When you look at A map of the south Florida metro it seems pretty big but in reality it is not. People can oly live in about 30% of the land that represents the Miami metro. It only is made up of is 3-4 counties. Unlike places like Atlanta, and Houston who both have huemongous metro areas that have tons of land, But in Miami the only place to go is up.
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:06 AM
 
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Oh, you didn't say the bold part???
I was talking about the DENSITY. I didn't say it would be identical in every way to Manhattan covering all NYC. I said that the DENSITY is as if it was Manhattan was covering all of NYC.

Here's a reading comprehension tool that might help you: www.hookedonphonics.com
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Yeah, Finally one that is actually true to the actual size and population of Miami. When you look at A map of the south Florida metro it seems pretty big but in reality it is not. People can oly live in about 30% of the land that represents the Miami metro. It only is made up of is 3-4 counties. Unlike places like Atlanta, and Houston who both have huemongous metro areas that have tons of land, But in Miami the only place to go is up.
Most of Houston metro is in Harris County which is pretty large in itself and only half of the county is developed. The rest is forest, port, and swamp. Just saying.
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Old 04-03-2013, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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I was talking about the DENSITY. I didn't say it would be identical in every way to Manhattan covering all NYC. I said that the DENSITY is as if it was Manhattan was covering all of NYC.

Here's a reading comprehension tool that might help you: www.hookedonphonics.com
If that's the tool that you used that got you to this level of comprehension. No thanks.

Btw, your logic still makes no sense. If Manhattan was the same size as NYC. The density would differ.
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Old 04-03-2013, 12:43 PM
 
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If that's the tool that you used that got you to this level of comprehension. No thanks.

Btw, your logic still makes no sense. If Manhattan was the same size as NYC. The density would differ.
Why are you being so difficult? Acting like you don't understand him. He's saying if Manhattans density equaled the the square miles of NYC the population would equal Mexico city's...
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