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Also, Atlanta's MSA has a lot more land area than Philadelphia's MSA. It's easier to continue to grow with so much land area when the MSA can just continue to expand where as Philadelphia is constrained on three sides. To the North is the New York City MSA/CSA. To the East is the Atlantic Ocean, and to the South is the Baltimore MSA/CSA. The only way Philly can expand is to the west and if it expands any further west it will take an hour and a half to get from the outer limits of the metro to the city core.
So Atlanta and Philadelphia city limits are the same size yet Philadelphia fits 1.2 million more within the city limits, and Atlanta MSA is 3,000 sq miles bigger than Philly MSA yet Philly MSA still has 500,000 people more.
Also, Atlanta's MSA has a lot more land area than Philadelphia's MSA. It's easier to continue to grow with so much land area when the MSA can just continue to expand where as Philadelphia is constrained on three sides. To the North is the New York City MSA/CSA. To the East is the Atlantic Ocean, and to the South is the Baltimore MSA/CSA. The only way Philly can expand is to the west and if it expands any further west it will take an hour and a half to get from the outer limits of the metro to the city core.
So Atlanta and Philadelphia city limits are the same size yet Philadelphia fits 1.2 million more within the city limits, and Atlanta MSA is 3,000 sq miles bigger than Philly MSA yet Philly MSA still has 500,000 people more.
I think it's worth noting, also, that NIMBY-ism/zoning in the Philly area also tends to be pretty strong compared to most other areas of the country.
In addition, while it is difficult to obtain statistics at the metro level, the is a large amount of permanently preserved open space/conservation easements throughout the region, basically putting a significant chuck of land off-limits from development. Much of the region is "maxed-out" from a development footprint standpoint, so the vast majority of new development will have to take the form of redevelopment (of which there is plenty of opportunity). Nevertheless, this makes any new development more complex.
That page just demonstrates his point. What census info is that page using?
Atlanta and Miami's city populations are very small.
Well its a fact that in comparison there populations are small but it shows that the daytime increase in Atlanta is much higher than many cities including Philly.
This says the daytime population of Atlanta is 670,000. You proved my point when I said the daytime population was not over 700,000. Even with tourists included Atlanta MAY have 800,000 day time population. Still nowhere close to Philadelphia's population.
How is Philly not a few notches higher? I'm not saying MSA as a whole, just city level. Even as an MSA Philly has a higher population, is overall wealthier, and has a higher GDP therefore produces more for this country. So explain to me how in any rational way, is Atlanta on the same or higher tier than Philly? Those rankings are garbage and always discredit the sheer size and power of Philly. ALWAYS.
I was not in disagreement about the 700,000 number.I was just ,making a point that the increase is higher in Atlanta than Philly.
Well it would be one thing if it were just one ranking Philly lower but its several different ones
You want rational?
Atlanta is one of the “TOP METRO AREAS
WITH THE LARGEST NET INTERNATIONAL MIGRATION.
Also, Atlanta's MSA has a lot more land area than Philadelphia's MSA. It's easier to continue to grow with so much land area when the MSA can just continue to expand where as Philadelphia is constrained on three sides. To the North is the New York City MSA/CSA. To the East is the Atlantic Ocean, and to the South is the Baltimore MSA/CSA. The only way Philly can expand is to the west and if it expands any further west it will take an hour and a half to get from the outer limits of the metro to the city core.
So Atlanta and Philadelphia city limits are the same size yet Philadelphia fits 1.2 million more within the city limits, and Atlanta MSA is 3,000 sq miles bigger than Philly MSA yet Philly MSA still has 500,000 people more.
I'd go for Philly, especially with no schools to worry about. It's going to be the next big relocation destination.
Huh?The schools in Philly is worse than those in Atlanta.
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The Philadelphia public school system is in a financial and leadership crisis so severe that writer Aaron Kase said in this article on Salon.com that the district is in its “death throes.”
10 fold is an exaggeration and really not that hard to find descent schools in Atlanta regardless of how the schools are overall better in the metro.
Even so,this might explain why the city of Philly is not growing even faster due to poor schools.
It hampers Atlanta also but the schools in the city are not as dire as they are in Philly(city).
It's not only PA suburbs, but New Jersey and Delaware are both ranked higher for primary education as well.
You can still find good schools in Philly proper too. For public: Greenfield, Central, Masterman, Penn Alexander, etc. And then there are a slew of superb charter, private and catholic schools separate from the Philadelphia Public School district. Not that difficult to find.
We'll just say Atlanta has better city proper schools and Philly has better suburban schools. Therefore Primary education is a tie. Sound good to you? Really no point in arguing.
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