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def more suburban and closer in than philly's dt, but, around sf is water, so... better than water? lol... this is not looking good for philly on these.
I'm guessing these are areas that were razed and built over? Not sure what is going on in that section.
so now question is can philly and south philly hold a continuously larger urban core...
You definitely wouldn't see anything that suburban so close to SF's core. Not that Philly doesn't miles of impressive urbanity as well, but that's what I mean by SF's urban fabric being more consistent.
yeah, that was my only idea of that, b/c miles north of that like in port richmond is very dense again.
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You definitely wouldn't see anything that suburban so close to SF's core. Not that Philly doesn't miles of impressive urbanity as well, but that's what I mean by SF's urban fabric being more consistent.
well I guess it now more depends on contiguous area.
still thinking philly has a slightly larger section w/o breakups along the river/cc/south philly and then just more overall urban areas and structurally denser as far as narrow streets go, but sf has more people packed in, tough call, just depends on how somebody wants to frame it.
However, does Philly have something like this that close in?
I saw a bunch, actually, and SFH like our suburbs.
Keep living in your bubble though.
So you're saying the type of housing in those streetviews isn't urban? Really? Please show me where the bungalows or SFH are in those streetviews or in their vicinity?
You definitely wouldn't see anything that suburban so close to SF's core. Not that Philly doesn't miles of impressive urbanity as well, but that's what I mean by SF's urban fabric being more consistent.
That's hilarious considering SF is full of suburban housing.
You live in a bubble. Come out of it if you want to be taken seriously. You want to judge THE PROJECTS or some other RDA project as not being urban enough for you?
Are you for real? We have dense, URBAN neighborhoods in every square inch of Philadelphia. You don't in SF, in a much smaller geographical area than Philadelphia is.
So you're saying the type of housing in those streetviews isn't urban? Really? Please show me where the bungalows or SFH are in those streetviews or in their vicinity?
Now this is suburban, and very close to Philly's core: [URL]https://maps.google.com/maps?q=philadelphia&ll=39.967447,-75.155685&spn=0.005192,0.008256&hnear=Philadelphia ,+Pennsylvania&t=h&layer=c&cbll=39.967447,-75.155685&panoid=iQUfTHD7re3afWPHlqQlnA&cbp=12,110 .63,,0,6.78&z=18[/URL]
Or how about these garden-style apartments less than a couple miles from the core of Philly? [URL]https://maps.google.com/maps?q=philadelphia&ll=39.966398,-75.1473&spn=0.020162,0.042272&hnear=Philadelphia,+ Pennsylvania&t=h&layer=c&cbll=39.96629,-75.14732&panoid=WCXEufKJwxnUHoeDX-KivQ&cbp=12,249.85,,0,12.11&z=15[/URL]
Yup, definitely not urban. Period.
I'm pretty sure that's Yorktown, genius. Also, the only suburban style housing in Philadelphia exists because suburban people like you come into the city with your awful, suburban designs.
There's nothing suburban about the second one. You try to judge airlite rowhouses when you have SFH in your city? Just hilarious.
I'm pretty sure that's Yorktown, genius. Also, the only suburban style housing in Philadelphia exists because suburban people like you come into the city with your awful, suburban designs.
There's nothing suburban about the second one. You try to judge airlite rowhouses when you have SFH in your city? Just hilarious.
So this is not urban? Because if that's what you're arguing then this is truly a pointless debate.
I agree it is pointless.... because you live in a bubble and choose to ignore reality.
Lol of course you cherrypick the downtown area and core.
And of course like a typical West Coaster or other fake, immature type, you'll insult me unprovoked repeatedly then when I fire back at you like a man you'll report my post.
It looks like that almost everywhere south of Golden Gate park all the way to Daly City. and a large portion SouthWest of Mt Sutro is designed like that also.
this entire area here for the most part is basically a fringe suburb and has suburban aesthetics if put around any NE city or large midwest city.
It's a 15 sq mile area of the city.
Why would they call it that? I'm not like the first person to think that area has a suburban aesthetic. You've got SFgate calling it that, as well as UC Berkeley publishing it.
""I don't know the big residential areas, like the Outer Richmond and Outer
Sunset because I feel like I never have a reason to go there. They're kind of
worse than the suburbs in terms of being monotonic."
"Residential areas in a neighborhood may feel like a deadzone to us. Rows and rows
of houses that we have no reason to visit" "
They would definitely be suburban areas in Chicago, for sure. Much less the east coast. Outer ring suburbs in Chicago like Berwyn, Cicero etc are denser and that is outside of a 227 mile area, much less 30-40.
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