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View Poll Results: Pittsburgh vs. Kansas City
Pittsburgh 45 61.64%
Kansas City 28 38.36%
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Milky Way Galaxy
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While Kansas City, MO (and even the state of Kansas) is pretty much nothing like the stereotypes that Kansas would lead people to believe, the state of Kansas has quite a bit of influence over the city of Kansas City, MO and the entire metro. I would say possibly even more than the state of MO and Jeff City.
I believe that a lot of the stereotypes about the city is most likely false. But I just can't rid myself of the thought that some of it is actually true. So I really have ask people that's lived there since I'm actually making it a serious priority to maybe move there one day. To what extent is the hillbilly culture if it exists present in Kansas City? Enough to affect a pretty decent percentage of it or only just a small minority that you wouldn't encounter in most places?
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:16 AM
 
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Washington County and Butler County, both in the Pittsburgh MSA, have seen population growth. The main reason you see declines in population in Pittsburgh itself is related to demographic shifts based on job declines of the past and the fact that so many middle aged people with families and younger people left for other areas that contained more jobs and opportunities in the prior few decades after the Steel Industy collapse. I think you will see a gradual trend toward less declines and more growth as the population pyramid shifts over time. Pittsburgh has much older demographics in the city and all of its metro counties because of the large-scale loss of jobs in the last half of the 1970s into the 1980s.
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Thats because it is going through a natural decline right now between old folks and young professionals moving in.
I don't know what's being implied by a "natural decline" but it can't be a good thing if its been happening for half a century. Those numbers are pretty alarming. Though I hear it grew in 2011 but from what I heard very slowly.

Another thing, are young people moving in or out of the city? It would be particularly a concern for me considering I fall in that category myself. Is the city not appealing to young people?
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Tampa - St. Louis
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Thats because it is going through a natural decline right now between old folks and young professionals moving in.
Couldn't a city like St. Louis or Cincinnati use the same logic? What makes Pittsburgh's population decline any different?
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:59 AM
 
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Kansas City and it isnt even close.
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Old 04-21-2013, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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Kansas City and it isnt even close.
Yes its very close
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Old 04-21-2013, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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Couldn't a city like St. Louis or Cincinnati use the same logic? What makes Pittsburgh's population decline any different?
I suppose, Pittsburgh has been booming for awhile now and the population status isnt showing it because many elders live their and right now their dying out.
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Old 04-21-2013, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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I believe that a lot of the stereotypes about the city is most likely false. But I just can't rid myself of the thought that some of it is actually true. So I really have ask people that's lived there since I'm actually making it a serious priority to maybe move there one day. To what extent is the hillbilly culture if it exists present in Kansas City? Enough to affect a pretty decent percentage of it or only just a small minority that you wouldn't encounter in most places?

Hillbilly culture? Umm. Pretty much none in the KC area. You will see some of that in far remote areas of rural southern Missouri I guess, but not in the KC area.

Do you mean redneck culture? That is a little different. As far as redneck, I would say KC has very little. I have noticed more of that in the Pittsuburgh and Baltimore areas than in the KC area. But some of the suburbs of KC have more of that.

Now KC does have a sizable blue collar culture which does not mean redneck and especially not hillbilly. Just people that have more of a blue collar background, like to hunt, fish, nascar etc, on weekends rather than go downtown to the opera or art gallery crawls. But I honestly think KC is about the same as most major cities even in that regard. It’s not DC, San Francisco or Boston, but it’s very similar to Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Denver etc. I would even say that places like Pittsburgh and Baltimore have a higher percentage of blue collar culture than KC does. KC, especially in urban kcmo and in some of the affluent suburban areas like Overland Park are about as non-redneck / blue collar as you can get.

Now places like Oklahoma City and even Nashville etc are nothing like KC. They have a much more obvious “country culture”. Oklahoma City is off the charts when it comes to that. OKC makes KC feel like Boston a far as urban culture. That’s why I think the name “Kansas” City is what plays with people’s minds. When most people think of Kansas, I think they imagine just about everything except urban or sophisticated.

Bottom line is that KC really is about what you would expect from a major metro area of over 2 million people (and has been a major "urban" city for a long time) and the city has very little southern our country culture despite its central location among rural states and assocation with Kansas which has a terrible national image (or Missouri, who's image is not a lot better). While it has a cowtown heritage (stockyards etc), KC is more like Chicago (which also has a cowtown heritage) than a Fort Worth or OKC or even Dallas or Houston, obviously on a much smaller scale than Chicago though.

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Old 04-21-2013, 03:09 PM
 
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Economically speaking, the population loss in Pittsburgh is addition by subtraction. The working-age population increased between 2000 and 2010, but it was wiped out by losses in children and elderly, which are the two least economically-viable age groups. As Denis Leary said, "We got a lot of dead weight in this country." Pittsburgh just happens to be shedding its dead weight. This is how the city and metropolitan area can shrink but become markedly wealthier and more educated in the process.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Denver/Atlanta
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Yes its very close
Yeah, I think it's extremely close. Pretty much a tie in my book.
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Milky Way Galaxy
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Over the last 20 years Pittsburgh completely reinvented itself. During the 80s many left due to the collapse of the steel industry. There is still a lot of older people from that generation dying. However, Pittsburgh is getting much younger and growing again. The population has been on the rise again, and the city has been becoming substantially younger. This has all been posted on here many times. If you weren't so dumb I am sure it wouldn't have to be explained over and over again.
That's funny considering you have 4 posts in here. In case you didn't know most people have lives and don't have time to look up every little positive things that's been said about Pittsburgh in an entire forum page. Like your username says, don't be an idiot.
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